callmiro

You don't know crazy...wait until the afterparty

black-clk500

agree 100% with this

To the mod:
I think we all DO care who "represents" us at the FW, hence the 12 page discussion--and the cherry picking that happened, whether FW admits it or not Dodger has the corespondence.
Frankly, I'm surprised that you don't get why we're so pissed over this snow job.
And aren't "we" the members who make this site exist, the ones who make up MBWorld? Aren't we as a whole the ones who buy from the sponsors, who in turn keep the lights on at MBW?
So if MBW is going to be represented on a TV show, we should have some say in who and what car goes--otherwise, lets just say Trattor is a C63 owner because he's not really representing us--my .02.

And as far as the comments I made or personal attacks as you describe, most were said in jest and good fun to spice up the debate, maybe you're right about people having their panties in a bunch, I would agree, but I think we'd disagree about who those people are!

And a couple other things, you mention for us to limit the personal attacks on one hand and then take a dig at some of the guy's grammar and writing skills--seems two sided, just thought I'd throw that out there, I hope that's okay.
BTW why does our MBW mod have an M5 sig
Thank you!

LZH

Hey if you want an equal race, I'll take my BS...it's more evenly matched isn't it ?? The M3 that's going is a 2 door right ? I'll run a full tank of gas and he can run on fumes thats ~120lbs added weight for me and I'll even keep my luggage for the trip in the trunk and let the cameraman ride shotgun so he gets a front row seat of the spanking I issue this kid LOL

black-clk500

^^^

dodger63

All over forum wars website: it states forum wars Nominated members competing? Maybe instead of the poll we should ask the moderators or whom ever to ask forum wars not to use mbworld at all!! Cause obviously it's misrepresentation since its not really forum wars more like tv show choice wars all I'm asking is for mbworld to step up.. You guys are fast to smack us around for the slightest thing go jump on forum wars for coming into our house lying and trying to b/s us all


And please remember I voted for mthis I rather not be on tv.. But I would do anything to help properly representbthe forum and the platform

EpicAMG

Is Drake/current M3 guy (and M3Post) willing to go up against Mthis or Dodger63?

If so, Forum Wars...does that work for you?

drawde

My understanding is that this all stemmed from FW choosing a tune-only C63 to go up against the S/C M3 even though there were other nominations and members that stepped up with more experience and/or better prepped cars. This is where I believe all the "rigged" comments are coming from.

But after the S/C M3 dropped out, I can see why they wouldn't want a decently modified C63 going against a, from what I've seen, tune and pulley'd M3. Don't get me wrong, I would've loved to see mthis or dodger go over and spank some *** but I'm curious if any other tune-only C63's stepped up that had track experience? If so, why weren't they chosen?

If Tator was the only tune-only that stepped up, I feel there's nothing else to say but I wish you luck, brother.

DrakeKemper

Who the Hell do I have the show rigged???

Benz-O-Rama

My SL has two doors and weighs in at 4600lbs. I'll also eat a huge Cowboy Ribeye and not take a dump for 3 days before the race.

dodger63

Some what agreed but; my thought is from what it says is equally modded cars... Just cause are car kills m3 mod for mod isn't are fault is it.. Mthis is actually less the drake mod for mod? Header and tune only!? He is/suppose tune Pully and exhaust seems fair to me? Mod for mod no were does it say hp.. I only see power to weight comparisons do the math on that!!! They claim 400-500 pounds lighter... And we have a bit more hp big deal.......

dodger63

Tune the rover!!!! They would say you have the advantage cause you'd have more hp!!!! U coming Thursday?

Benz-O-Rama

LOL.... You know....Jeremy is coming to DC in a few weeks. Maybe I'll have him throw a file on the Rover too.


I'll be there on Thursday, you know you don't even have to ask.

callmiro

Just go back to the M3Post and worry about getting your car ready...no one is crapping in your house so don't your nuggets in ours

dodger63

That year is what 400 throw a 100hp tune and fw won't let you run?!?

So you Thursday im excited!?!????!??

black-clk500

forum wars--please read this and look at our poll we setup.
Choose one of these guys and call it done.
The kid can still get a s/c slapped on with his mods this week and then Traitor will really get embarrassed.

So please pick one of these two guys so they can prepare and make the journey--make it right and gain back some credibility

DrakeKemper

That would be a 150HP difference. I am not opposed to facing any C63 with just a tune if someone thinks that they are a better driver than me.

DrakeKemper

If I wouldn't spend the 4k of free stuff I got from sponsors.
$1,000 tune
$3,000 vinyl wrap
$90 air filter

I wouldn't spend $18,000 on a SuperCharger?? I said I would play fair, I'm playing fair.

Benz-O-Rama

Yup, 400hp/420lb-ft supercharged Jaguar V8 in that thing. I wonder how much a tune would add.


Stoked about Thursday. Finally a cold day, with drag radials and no snow!

black-clk500

You're still here--don't you have homework to do?
If you must know, I meant the sponsors might comp you one for the free PR they'd get.
Now shue

DrakeKemper

Are you stupid? A supercharger build would take 3+weeks. They have to take apart the whole engine. Re-build it, replace almost every part, and properly test/tune it. I would definitely race Dodger if I had a Supercharged M3, I'd have no problem with that. But no company is giving away $20,000, and they don't have enough time to finish it.

I actually respect Dodger, I feel bad because he was the real choice, as was MartinD. He is handling it quite well.

EpicAMG

So guys...even if Dodger63 or Mthis go, we won't have an M3 to go against???

dodger63

Andy qouted me 100hp on the 11' sport RR

dodger63

It started out as something cool that could showcase both cars obviously put the b/s to the side mod for mod in a straight line m3 has a real poor chance of winning.. And c63 would have a hard time to catch an m3 on the twisties.. But what has became of this is just a lot of bull.. Sim mods to showcase what these cars are capable of... Let's take m3 and c63 with same mods and race.. This has been lopsided since the beginning!!

betrezra

Drake - how do you get certified to be a stunt driver/precision driver? Is it a weekend drivers course, or something more intensive? Either way sounds like a whole lot of fun.
How was your bull run experience? How did you finish?

For a young man you've got some pretty extensive driving experience...... at 19 I was barely qualified to perform 1 wheel burnouts in a clapped out 1969 firebird

Velociabstract

I read most of the posts but I admit, not all of them. But I wanted to post anyway. I have a SRT-6, which I think is pretty fast, (AMG 3.2) and I added some power modifications and Pilot Sport Cups and headed to the track. I was slower than a well prepared 150 hp Sentra. One year and some driving schools later, now on street tires, I'm over 3 seconds faster on a track that is less than a mile long. Knowing how to drive to the capabilities of a car is worth more than a 200 hp advantage. (depending on the track) I suspect many don't have a clue how fast you can go in a slow car and how slow you can go in a fast car. That is the heart of the matter. Forum wars is about good television and not fair competition. I've won and lost because of driver error. I've won and lost because of superior equipment. Joe Schmoe in Teleland wouldn't know the difference and that's what's worrisome. Now I'm a winner at the road courses but I still can't get the hang of the 1/4 mile. My real life best is 13 at 109 and on the mustang dyno 1/4 mile 12.2 at 110.6. It just goes to show the difference an experienced pilot makes.

Les