dodger63

Slicks only! Not!

alqamzi

Yes only slicks.

SonnyakaPig

12.5 stock for the SS is like 12.1 for the C63. Possible, but only a small, small percentage of drivers ever see those times.

The Camaro is pretty cool. But once you add FI with anything close to or above 500 rwhp you need to start thinking about axles, transmission coolers, and a few other mods to help the car safely hold the power.

Also, heat is a big problem for blown Ca/maros in hot climates. That's one big reason I sold mine.

justthebest

Haha - had to say something if you're gonna talk smack about my car (particularly since I have yet to find anything wrong with a C63).

118E63

Nah bro,they really are that quick if they hook&w somebody who can drive is behind the wheel

black-clk500

Great runs in Mexico, I mean the autobahn--wish I was closer to either place
I've always wondered how my P31 would measure up to a stock SS--next time I see one I'll have egg 'em on
So far no one wants to race me, but my car is nice and clean sleeping in a warm garage
Come spring/summer I have to do some hunting

I love reading these stories, can't believe he cut out at 100MPH--some people are so scared of high speeds.
My first car was a modded IROC-Z 5.7 350 and I use to race all of the time--lots of mustangs, vettes, etc.
Great car, but over 120mph it got scary dangerous
After hitting two telephone poles around 100MPH the car was toast--luckily I walked away, that was almost 20 years ago.
Now I take a little less risk and drive much better cars
These stories take me back to me weekly kill sessions
Fun stuff

propain

To be fair to the SS he did the first run up to about 150. I had him top end. He couldnt catch me. I think he knew top up was a loss for him so he didnt want to continue up top.

He might have been blown. I didn't hear it at all. Like you said it could have been a magnacharger.

Either way, headers and cam for sure. No cats. Stupid loud car. Personally I didnt like the exhaust note at all. It was way to loud and didnt have a nice sound.

From a dig to 120 (1/4) I think I still had him though. His manual tranny and short gears worked against him big time. 120+ I had him for sure.

Overall he raced until he won and cut off. Not the best type of racer but with the amount of wrench time he had in his car I guess he needed to justify the "Win" to himself.

I think my C63 was overall faster still which is not that impressive of a showing for the SS considering im just a tune. Dollar for Dollar though he has the most bang for the buck with the SS. Almost as fast for about 45K spent.

dodger63

No smack.. It's my opinion? Sorry I like the car allot as a stated. I've just never seen any that could run well? And never heard of one that could run well.

austinholloman

My step dad 2011 SS doesn't feel like it would be a mid 12 second car at all. More like low 13s consistant and maybe a lick high 12 every now and then. The stock engine feels power full and lazy at the same time. Stock 6 speed tranny shifts clean too but the engine just doesn't ever feel excited to rev and the car feels like a tank! Waaayyyy bigger than my C43...

LOCO 05' E55

+2 Might just be a factory freak its close to a full second faster than claimed stock..

dodger63

Maybe on will show up at Mir again.. I'm not talking smack since I like both cars actually all cars.. I've just never seen them move that well.. Do they both have optional gearing from the factory!! Ive been looking at the gt forum and the ones that run in the 11s have slow trap speeds? Check that all the ones that say stock?

MIKESV8

nah that's not stock.lol trust me. i personally don't like the car. it's just not me. i guess it's because it's just really played out in my area, or because GM decided to put an LSA engine instead of like an LS7 in their ss2 models. the z28 coming out this summer is gonna have the same engine in the new cts-v, but it's still slower they should've called it a day by just doing LS9 engines in the z28's. i smoked my buddies stock ss in my c55 that just has an air filter. he was spinning through the tires alot though

SonnyakaPig

The Fifth Generation Camaro 1SS and 2SS:

The engine in the manual cars is the LS3, doesn't matter if its the 1SS or 2SS.

The engine in the auto cars is the L99, doesn't matter if its the 1SS or 2SS.

The difference between a 1SS and 2SS is leather seats and a guage pack cluster under the dash, also different interioir door panels.

The CTS-V does have the LSA. Unless it was officially confirmed in the last several weeks, then it is merely strongly believed that the new Z28 will have the LSA. Spy photos of the opened engine bay of the Z28 shows what looks like the LSA, but that's not official confirmation, although it likely is the LSA or a close variation.

Btw, the L99 engine has VVT and the LS3 does not. Also, the LS3 cam is slightly more aggressive than the one in the L99, but the power potential of the L99 is right there with the LS3 once you change the cams. Lots of people with automatic SS's do LS3 conversions on their cars' engine.

Jons95c36amg

When my C63 was stock I ran a supercharged-magna 10 Camaro SS 6spd with low boost. We were even. But I know this guy with a cam,headers,supercharged putting 500whp+. Well I dont have to tell you how that went.
BTW it was cold today and took the C63 out for a spin. I gunned it in 2nd gear at 40mph I went sideways Forget about 1st gear.

propain

Ohhh yeah! Nuttin like getting out of the hole in this cold air. I felt like I was driving a rocket ship last night. Slow pull out in 1st then hammer it. Smoking through 3rd. Car dancing all over the place putting me in the seat. Great out of control feeling...

Careful out there...


Edit this was a silver SS. Might be the same guy...

propain

You mean the GT500?

dodger63

I'm not sure anymore what im talking about!!! Haha sorry guys.. I'm focusing on my c63 that's it!!!

SonnyakaPig

One very cold and dry 45 degree F night that happened to me too. I was going almost 40 mph when I gunned it, I went sideways, it was pretty scary.

My car was stock too.

I can't even imagine tuned.

Like you said, forget 1st gear. Too bad too. haha

SonnyakaPig

With Maggies on the LS3, a lot of times people are running very, very low boost, like 5-6 psi. The LS3's will make about 430-465 rwhp, give-or-take.

L99's will make less until their cam is changed.

When you up the boost with a smaller pulley, and the car is running 7-10 psi, an LS3 SS will put down about 465-515 rwhp. At that point, a C63 will have a tough time, but there are a lot of variables, obviously.

Just adding some perspective, that's all.

callmiro

I watched HorsePower TV this weekend and they ran a 2010 SS "stock" and added shorty headers and some plugs and wires and crap and it only pulled 350 WHP....

I've raced several "stock" SS's and they are dogs....

I've also raced the new 2011 GT500 Press Car, that supposedly had a "tune" for all the journalists and i beat the 3 times GT500, off the lights, by 2-3 cars. The GT500 feels fast when you're in it cuz the boost comes on hard and makes alot of noise but they only way you can tell how fast it really is when it pulls beside.

propain

Stock I agree, the GT500 vs a tuned C63 is no match. Start modding the GT500 and it easily surpasses anything the C63 can currently do getting down into the mid 9's and I think Ive even seen one in the high 8's on a twin turbo.

Its all about the blower...

SonnyakaPig

I was very close to purchasing a GT500. What interested me so much was the super-strong engine that Ford builds for these cars.

On Kenne Bell's website they talk about the individual tolerances for various engines that they make blowers for and they say that they couldn't break the pre-2011 (because at the time the website info was published the MY2011 wasn't available yet) engines. They said Ford made one hell of an engine.

And with the live rear axle and manual trans, the car can handle some great power.

So, like you said, they can be beasts. But, I wouldn't feel comfortable upping the boost too high on the stock blower. I would think heat would become a problem pretty fast as the blower would have to spin much faster than a more efficient twin screw option like KB or Whipple.

Anyway, GT500's look great to me and I love the way they sound too.

callmiro

Totally agree with you about modding a Stang....you drop a Kenne Bell blower in there and its easy into the high 10's.....

Even on the Kenne Bell site, they show a stock 540HP GT500 pulling 444 WHP - over 800 WHP with a 2.8 blower....


http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/SC_pg...uts/Shelby.htm

alqamzi

I own both cars, and i can assure you that the shelby is faster then my modified c63. The gt500 doesn't hook in 1st and 2nd but in 3rd when it gets traction u wont see it. I've raced alot of cars from 3rd like cts-v and C6 LS3 and they had no chance with me.

alqamzi

You will need more then tune believe me.