Benzboy13

woah woah woah

dont talk bad about the almighty mitch buchanon. seriously. dont.

ATL_MB

The [2012] C-Class sees the debut of a new telematics generation which will also be gradually introduced in other model series. Major new features include greater operating convenience, larger displays, telephone directory transfer via Bluetooth®, wireless music reproduction and a USB interface in the center console.

The top-of-the-range COMAND Online system now provides internet access for the first time. When the car is stationary the customer can browse freely or surf to a Mercedes-Benz Online service whose pages load particularly rapidly. The integrated services include weather information and a local search function as well as the option of downloading a route that has been previously configured on a PC using Google maps and sent to the car. The navigation system of COMAND Online also has added functions. New features include a 3D display with virtual city views.

Also new: routes covered can be recorded and repeated later, specific personal destinations can be entered and stored and three alternative routes can be displayed on the screen - one of them a particularly economical variant.

As a first in the C-Class, the Becker MAP PILOT makes a low-cost navigation function, which can also be retrofitted, available for the entry-level Audio 20 radio. Its advantages over aftermarket solutions include integrated operation via the COMAND Controller and the Audio 20 display.

melmanc55

I would not buy that piece of s!@# Caddie. I am on my second AMG and the build quality, performance, history and name are why I am on my second. I could have easily bought a new CTS-V for what I paid for my used C63. I have owned a CTS and they are everything GM brings to the table...gadgets and gismos. Yes the new CTS-V are fast but thats about it. Let's see what it looks like in 5 years.....make that 1 year. That pimp interior caters to those who buy them. You are what you buy. My 2 cent.

1st amg

The caddie is indeed one fast car, but for me, this caddie sounds like total crap, it doesnt sound the way a 500+ hp car should, its absolutely horrendous. Plus, the brakes look like the same ones on their GMC Sierra pickups, no slots, no crossdrills as far as I know.

propain

These...

For the money it costs you to get headers and a header tune for the C63 you can have a low 10 second CTSV.

Even Money

No amount of $$$ is gonna make that garish CTS-V styling look good.

propain

But less amount will.... that interior is a premium upgrade im sure. With different color choices im sure it will look good. All a matter of opinion though. The C63 interior is nothing to write home about.

gnxs

Yea, what does Brembo know about making brakes.

shchow

Appreciate the voice of reason, Propain.
Looking at your previous collection of cars, also a true enthusiast.

Here's a vid I think you might enjoy...
http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Cadill...eos-22321.html

c63canada

the cts-v sedan is just too big for my taste.

the trunk of the coupe is way too high.

Also, sat in a cts-v the interior is quite nice but the instrument cluster needles just looks cheepo IMO.

Jycke

You think the caddy's interior looks better than the facelifted C63? Or was it a question whether to keep the old C63 or trade it up to a CTS-V?

c63canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1st amg
The caddie is indeed one fast car, but for me, this caddie sounds like total crap, it doesnt sound the way a 500+ hp car should, its absolutely horrendous. Plus, the brakes look like the same ones on their GMC Sierra pickups, no slots, no crossdrills as far as I know.


In fact the CTS-V does have Brembo Calipers but the disc are plain. Not slotted or cross drilled. Anyone that drives a C63 will tell you that the cross drilled brakes of the c63 always get guys staring at them. My wife keeps telling me "the guy next to us is staring at the brakes, again". The c63 has rotors that just look mean where the cts-v's brake rotors look like something that could actualy been taken from a pick-up part bin IMO.

c63canada

Amen BRO.

You just hit the nail right on the head.



Bottom line line More power does'nt equate with more fun at the wheel or just looking back at your car when walking away from it.

propain

The caddy interior has always been superior to the C63's interior up to this point.

Id like to see all the updates to both in person before I make my decision but from the pics the new C63 interior is a step in the right direction and more appealing than the current caddy interior.

Have you sat in the Caddy? The interior is really nice.

TexasEngineer

I am glad you think looks of rotors are what important, but many other feel that function is more important. The V rotor are actually made by Brembo and are the new dual cast rotors that are also featured on the C63 p31 package. Also the V rotors are larger than the C63's. No they are not drilled or slotted. Cadillac tested both and found no appreciable benefit. It should be noted that the CTS-V is heavier than the C63but stops just as well if not better. If someone was really worried about rotor looks, two piece drilled and slotted rotors are available for both cars from aftermarket companies.

propain

ZephyrAMG

^^^^ Nice job propain....puts it all in perspective...

Sheep

To be honest, I like almost everything for the new interior, except the LCD pod area. If you look at the current version, you see the lines flow toward the center and same for the CTS-V. However, the new design cut the flow in half and makes it looking like the E-class or M3 styling, which I don't really like. And I think it will be better if the center uses the same kind design for the new SLK class that retains that flow then it will be perfect.

Sheep

c63canada

why would I pay aftermarket rotors. If I'm buying a new car I dont buy just for function but also for looks. Heck a BMW m3 has a single piston or 2 piston front unit that looks like it's off a VW jetta and it stops faster that almost any car including c63 and cts-v

Who are we kidding, if the c63 had a hyundai badge would you have bought it.....

like it or not looks sells. So for equal performance I will take the one that look and performs.

For that matter a nice exhaust sound doesn't help performance but I still like it.

just saying bro

1st amg

Indeed I know that they are brembo, just the ugly looking ones, astetically they are revolting.

GHAZAN

im sorry but that's a pretty retarded comment...because they dont have slots or holes in them they are revolting? but they perform better than ours on a bigger car...lol

gnxs

I get it, you LOVE cross drilled rotors. That's cool. Perhaps the CTS-V's brakes aren't your cup of tea, but revolting? C'mon.

melmanc55

Ok, one quick question. How much faster is the 2011 CTS-V coupe suppose to be over a current model C63? Every review that i have read (so far) have it as a mid 12 sec 1/4 mile car with 0-60 times that are 4.0 sec and over..... I have seen posts stating that this car can easily out run a C63 without mods. So how much faster is it? Doesn't sound like much if any.

gonzales25

Wanna come up to Oklahoma I'll show how fast mine is

gnxs

Fastest time I've ever seen for a bone stock CTS-V Sedan is 11.9@118+ (with a DA right around sea level). The Coupe is ~70 pounds lighter, so maybe an 11.8 in good air on a decent track?

The quickest Dragtimes listing I see for a "stock" C63 is 12.1x ("MThis" from this forum). However, if you look at the specs he mentions this was actually done on 265 drag radials AND -1500 foot DA. I suspect I could have run an 11.5 @ 122+ with DR's and a DA that good when my "V" was stock. Of course that is pure speculation.