propain

Yeah, I hear ya. Headers on my DD would probably be to much.

So you guys think the MHP headers and Cat deletes alone make the same power as the Gintani Headers + Full exhaust? Thats pretty impressive for the MHP headers.

dodger63

I trust no one especially when there's money to be made! Mhp are true long tune headers not mid length like the gintani, if you add race muffler system to the car and headers it flows much much better + it saves significant weight on the car? less Weight plus more horsepower = faster times a true race exhust should save 40lbs, that's I good amount of weight + factor in if the other car has pp that would include the lighter break rotors which helps allot! Lighter wheels would also be huge in the 60-130

propain

I hear ya, I question all including MHP. I'm sure Andy and MHP are HIGHLY invested in keeping you and his customers in the top spot. It works both ways in this case. I would think Jeremy is as motivated to make his car look as fast as possible as Andy is in making yours. That's the business I guess. Hopefully we do get more "independent" racers soon from OE.

I saw Jeremy state that the headers were long tube in the original post about them and then you and supers correction. He didn't address it after that though. I agree by the definition and the location of the collector they are not a true long tube. Do you think the MHP headers makes the same power as this full race exhaust including the Gintani headers?

Did Jeremy have lighter wheels and rotors in this 60-130 time?

mthis

Yes. A True LT header 4-1 vs a Full lenth tri y should made 10-15 rw more

Mhp tune/header car is good for 100rw gain ove stock with filters and so is the OE tune header filter exhaust 100rw gain but dift Dyno dift atmosphere

It is possible for the OE tune/header/filter/exhaust to make mire power then a tune header filter MHP car



The MHP headers are made to make the most possible power out of a header. True Long tubes 1 7/8 to 4-1 to 3inch With mikes race exhaust there is no other exhaust headers system out there that will make more power.

propain

Good info! Thanks!

mthis

You know what would be a good set up my car with the gintani exhaust

dodger63

I'm sure Andy is but as far as I no we are all payig customers of his! So that makes it a bit different! The tune and headers are great I own Mhp products they got me were I am today.. I'm sure as other guys get into the game bringing different tunes and headers out the gap will get closer but as for now mthis Mhp tune header run of 11.12 Is the best I've seen if he added a race exhust and race tune he would pin a 10

DD GT3 RD

Update from DIVEXXTREME @ 6speedonline.
After verification, it turns out that DD GT3 RD actually ran a 9.79,
and Jeremy@OE with the headers and exhaust ran a 8.51.

_AMG_

Are the numbers posted on 6speed?

DD GT3 RD

they are, well mine is in the list...I dont think they added Jeremy to the list cause he is not a member there, but if you go to the end of the our times are discussed

here:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-list-248.html

also discussed on another Benz forum that is blocked here I believe, but named on the vbox sheets on page 1 of this thread

_AMG_

Thanks for the link!