Best Radar/Laser Detectors?

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Jun 10, 2011 | 05:30 PM
  #76  
I called the company and asked them which is their newest #1 unit they have. They said their NUMBER ONE BEST UNIT is the Escort 9500 ix because it has GPS positioning of speed traps and red light cameras and it has a continuous memory that stores information(web updateable). This is as good as it gets right now.
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Jun 10, 2011 | 07:49 PM
  #77  
Quote: I called the company and asked them which is their newest #1 unit they have. They said their NUMBER ONE BEST UNIT is the Escort 9500 ix because it has GPS positioning of speed traps and red light cameras and it has a continuous memory that stores information(web updateable). This is as good as it gets right now.
But is it legal?
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Jun 10, 2011 | 10:49 PM
  #78  
Quote: But is it legal?
Yes, except for Virginia and Washington D.C.
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Jun 10, 2011 | 11:29 PM
  #79  
James is the man! Anyone can also pick up from him with excellent customer service as always...

Yes it is legal except in 2 states as mentioned. Laser Jammers are NOT legal.
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Jun 11, 2011 | 02:52 AM
  #80  
Quote: Yes, except for Virginia and Washington D.C.

Yes our Congressmen are especially sensative to anyone who breaks the law. Hey Weiner hows the facebook and twitter thing working out for yah.
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Jun 18, 2011 | 10:24 AM
  #81  
I got a 9500ix and just used it on a long trip. It seemed to work well, though I did get clocked doing 80 in a 65. I heard it beep, waited a second or two to see if the beeping continued (it did), hit the brakes moderately hard, then saw the officer a second later.

I wound up with a $110 citation for not obeying a traffic sign, but no points or speeding violation. I can live with that, given that I was probably doing over 90 before I hit the brakes (open highway in the mountains with few cars around).

So my questions:

- Do we usually need to react immediately and hit the brakes hard when it beeps?

- Are there types of radars/lasers for which the 9500ix simply won't able to give sufficient warning? If so, I guess we need to set our own speed limit so that, if we do get nabbed, the speed won't be too egregious.
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Jun 18, 2011 | 10:36 AM
  #82  
Quote: I got a 9500ix and just used it on a long trip. It seemed to work well, though I did get clocked doing 80 in a 65. I heard it beep, waited a second or two to see if the beeping continued (it did), hit the brakes moderately hard, then saw the officer a second later.

I wound up with a $110 citation for not obeying a traffic sign, but no points or speeding violation. I can live with that, given that I was probably doing over 90 before I hit the brakes (open highway in the mountains with few cars around).

So my questions:

- Do we usually need to react immediately and hit the brakes hard when it beeps?

- Are there types of radar/laser detectors for which the 9500ix simply won't able to give sufficient warning? If so, I guess we need to set our own speed limit so that, if we do get nabbed, the speed won't be too egregious.
Ohhh nooo I am so sorry! I hate that crap! Sorry about that..

Here are my thoughts:

1. I immediately break when I hear the beep for a detected a radar-obviously not for speed trap or red light
2. The radar SHOULD warn you in ample time given it has high sensitivity
3. The radar has the sensitivity to capture all bands except laser I think
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Jun 18, 2011 | 12:41 PM
  #83  
I like to get off the gas when my detector goes off, and based on the signal strength i will brake.

who's in for a GB for the 9500ix or even the 9500ci?
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Jun 18, 2011 | 01:49 PM
  #84  
Quote: So my questions:

- Do we usually need to react immediately and hit the brakes hard when it beeps?

- Are there types of radar/laser detectors for which the 9500ix simply won't able to give sufficient warning? If so, I guess we need to set our own speed limit so that, if we do get nabbed, the speed won't be too egregious.
my Solo usually gives notice with plenty of distance between me and the radar so I usually only let off the gas. I never brake hard, that just brings attention to you when the cop might have been clocking someone else.

Last time I legitimately got clocked and ticketed with the Solo on I came across the top of a hill and on the way down there was a cop standing outside his vehicle pointing the clock at me with his finger on the trigger...he clicked it only once, for a second...and that was all she wrote. Solo beeped for that 1 second he clocked me. Nothing I could do, it was the perfect trap. I think it was 94 in a 70
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Jun 18, 2011 | 03:28 PM
  #85  
Quote: As for remote mount, the 9500 Ci or the new Bel STIR Plus remote unit which performs better than the Ci for less money. For Lidar, the Laser Interceptor for sure................
Your facts are off... or is this an opinion?
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Jun 18, 2011 | 03:36 PM
  #86  
I have ran pretty much everything out there, don't overlook K40's new RL360, which is true 360 degree radar detection like the V1. Escort is not 360

sensitivity is great, can be tailored to your desire, and has a gps feature... tried and tested... I like it over the 9500ci when combined with the EX2 laser defusers, however we just got the traffic flow radars on the highway that are Kband... I think that all detectors should be made to filter certain signals on command... distronic plus owners would appreciate it
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Jun 18, 2011 | 04:47 PM
  #87  
Quote: But is it legal?
Laser Jammers - illegal

Speeding - illegal

pick your poison
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Jun 18, 2011 | 06:07 PM
  #88  
Quote: I have ran pretty much everything out there, don't overlook K40's new RL360, which is true 360 degree radar detection like the V1. Escort is not 360

sensitivity is great, can be tailored to your desire, and has a gps feature... tried and tested... I like it over the 9500ci when combined with the EX2 laser defusers, however we just got the traffic flow radars on the highway that are Kband... I think that all detectors should be made to filter certain signals on command... distronic plus owners would appreciate it
Beltronics STI-R Plus can filter Ka bands. That plus Laser Interceptors is an excellent combination and I like it over 9500ci. K40 RL360 is a nice unit but there are certain things about it that I don't like. But glad that you do.
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Jun 19, 2011 | 02:05 AM
  #89  
Quote: I got a 9500ix and just used it on a long trip. It seemed to work well, though I did get clocked doing 80 in a 65. I heard it beep, waited a second or two to see if the beeping continued (it did), hit the brakes moderately hard, then saw the officer a second later.

I wound up with a $110 citation for not obeying a traffic sign, but no points or speeding violation. I can live with that, given that I was probably doing over 90 before I hit the brakes (open highway in the mountains with few cars around).

So my questions:

- Do we usually need to react immediately and hit the brakes hard when it beeps?

- Are there types of radar/laser detectors for which the 9500ix simply won't able to give sufficient warning? If so, I guess we need to set our own speed limit so that, if we do get nabbed, the speed won't be too egregious.

On roads you drive all the time, you get used to the false signals, especially from shopping centers and hospitals (with the 9500 you can eliminate these with the GPS). All these are X band or K band. On unfamiliar roads I back off as soon as I hear it go off until I can figure out what's going on. Works better on freeways as you are usually too far away from any false sources. If you seen KA band go off, hit the brakes. If you see Laser go off, it's too late.
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Jun 19, 2011 | 10:15 AM
  #90  
LI group buy?
Quote: I like to get off the gas when my detector goes off, and based on the signal strength i will brake.

who's in for a GB for the 9500ix or even the 9500ci?
I want an LI properly installed either front or quad heads. I want a GB as I am sure many experienced drivers do.

I have a Valentine mounted on my visor with a remote unit that has a mute switch. No problem with annoying mall radar. But if the arrow goes off again front or behind it souns off with a 2 or more on the display slow down!

All countermeasures depend on situational awareness. Put a rabbit like a X5 in front of you if you get in a hill area. The higher you can mount the detector the better. The V has rear detection and the arrows have saved my butt. Good high mounted detectors will pick up laser scatter so hit the brakes. Many

In NE there are many radar signs at police frequencies to slow down traffic with the non V Rds. The gps units learn to ignore these. Then the constable situates himself where the sign was. You are toast.
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Jun 19, 2011 | 11:55 PM
  #91  
Quote: Beltronics STI-R Plus can filter Ka bands. That plus Laser Interceptors is an excellent combination and I like it over 9500ci. K40 RL360 is a nice unit but there are certain things about it that I don't like. But glad that you do.
everything has it quirks, sti-r is the same receiver as the 9500ci, though Id disagree on the LI, and chalk it up to marketing hype on the internet, I replaced a few of those for clients with other models due to some sort of ticket, failure to work properly, or just plain ugly having 4 on the front when they see others with 1-2 on front. It would come to a coin toss on the k40 vs 9500ci, sometimes I like the GPS filter with camera however the K40's laser defusers seem to work better.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 11:06 AM
  #92  
Laser countermeasures
I have seen all the utube demos of these units. The lasercountermeasures that win are the ones that retailer sells. (installations are a sideline.)

There are no semi objective tests of laser countermeasures like the old Car and Driver tests of detectors as far as I know.

I would like know from someone who installs all of them or any of them how they are ranked performance, reliability, and quality wise. I am putting it in an AMG not a 95 ricer.

I can understand that there might be a great solution but the manufacturer dos not support the product or is a pita for the installer to deal with. I want to buy from a company that will be around next week like BEL, escort and Valentine not some part timers with a website, a dvm and a soldering iron in their garage but no physical location listed.

Anyone out there with objective experience installing willing to compare and contrast units?
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:11 PM
  #93  
Quote: I have seen all the utube demos of these units. The lasercountermeasures that win are the ones that retailer sells. (installations are a sideline.)

There are no semi objective tests of laser countermeasures like the old Car and Driver tests of detectors as far as I know.

I would like know from someone who installs all of them or any of them how they are ranked performance, reliability, and quality wise. I am putting it in an AMG not a 95 ricer.

I can understand that there might be a great solution but the manufacturer dos not support the product or is a pita for the installer to deal with. I want to buy from a company that will be around next week like BEL, escort and Valentine not some part timers with a website, a dvm and a soldering iron in their garage but no physical location listed.

Anyone out there with objective experience installing willing to compare and contrast units?
I agree with you. Some of these companies and installers are truly fly by night. There is one "independent testing organization (although it's objectivity has also been called into question)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:22 PM
  #94  
Quote: I agree with you. Some of these companies and installers are truly fly by night. There is one "independent testing organization (although it's objectivity has also been called into question)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/
Guys of Lidar sell nothing and their objectivity is unquestioned. These guys independently BUY Lidar guns and use them for tests. The unit tested either JTG/JFG or doesnt. Its that simple. As far as installs are concerned, you'd have to get a hold of LI for that. They do have a list though.

There's no question that the current best unit is the L.I. on the Lidar end and EITHER the Redline (Escort) or the Valentine One on the radar end. I am not particularly impressed with the 9500 Ix other than its ability to tell me where the redlight or speed cameras are.A Cheetah Speed Cheetah will do just as well. Its built on an entirely different platform than the Redline and its radar ability suffers accordingly.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:25 PM
  #95  
Quote: I want an LI properly installed either front or quad heads. I want a GB as I am sure many experienced drivers do.

I have a Valentine mounted on my visor with a remote unit that has a mute switch. No problem with annoying mall radar. But if the arrow goes off again front or behind it souns off with a 2 or more on the display slow down!

All countermeasures depend on situational awareness. Put a rabbit like a X5 in front of you if you get in a hill area. The higher you can mount the detector the better. The V has rear detection and the arrows have saved my butt. Good high mounted detectors will pick up laser scatter so hit the brakes. Many

In NE there are many radar signs at police frequencies to slow down traffic with the non V Rds. The gps units learn to ignore these. Then the constable situates himself where the sign was. You are toast.
(this is why I don't use the autolearn feature nor the auto mute on my units)

That'll be changing shortly as the V-1 directional arrows are apparently off patent now.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:30 PM
  #96  
Quote: Guys of Lidar sell nothing and their objectivity is unquestioned. These guys independently BUY Lidar guns and use them for tests. The unit tested either JTG/JFG or doesnt. Its that simple. As far as installs are concerned, you'd have to get a hold of LI for that. They do have a list though.

There's no question that the current best unit is the L.I. on the Lidar end and EITHER the Redline (Escort) or the Valentine One on the radar end. I am not particularly impressed with the 9500 Ix other than its ability to tell me where the redlight or speed cameras are.A Cheetah Speed Cheetah will do just as well. Its built on an entirely different platform than the Redline and its radar ability suffers accordingly.
That's good to know (the net is full of unfounded rumors) I was just about to buy the L.I. to hook up to a V1. Thanks for the info.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:32 PM
  #97  
Quote: Laser Jammers - illegal

Speeding - illegal

pick your poison
Wrong-o. Laser Jammers are only illegal (unlawful) in a few states. Illinois is one of them, Florida is NOT!!

Quote: Your facts are off... or is this an opinion?
How are my facts even illustrated?? No opinion here. Go to www.guysoflidar.com and look at their objective tests. Fact is, the V-1 and the Redline/STIR-+ are still the flagships of radar detection and for lidar jamming, it is still the L.I. Note that much of this may change on the radar end soon with V-1 since others will soon be using the famous "directional arrows" to their advantage.

Quote: James is the man! Anyone can also pick up from him with excellent customer service as always...

Yes it is legal except in 2 states as mentioned. Laser Jammers are NOT legal.
Wrong, the FCC does not regulate lidar jammers and only a handful of states have made them illegal. ONLY DC and VA have made radar detectors illegal and the Redline is undetectable to their sniffers, aka Spector from Stalker.

Quote: But is it legal?
Yes, depends on what state you are in??
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:39 PM
  #98  
Quote: my Solo usually gives notice with plenty of distance between me and the radar so I usually only let off the gas. I never brake hard, that just brings attention to you when the cop might have been clocking someone else.

Last time I legitimately got clocked and ticketed with the Solo on I came across the top of a hill and on the way down there was a cop standing outside his vehicle pointing the clock at me with his finger on the trigger...he clicked it only once, for a second...and that was all she wrote. Solo beeped for that 1 second he clocked me. Nothing I could do, it was the perfect trap. I think it was 94 in a 70



He either QT'd you (quick trigger), POP or used instant on, either way, you're toast when it comes to that. You can't detect what isn't being emitted.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:45 PM
  #99  
Quote: everything has it quirks, sti-r is the same receiver as the 9500ci, though Id disagree on the LI, and chalk it up to marketing hype on the internet, I replaced a few of those for clients with other models due to some sort of ticket, failure to work properly, or just plain ugly having 4 on the front when they see others with 1-2 on front. It would come to a coin toss on the k40 vs 9500ci, sometimes I like the GPS filter with camera however the K40's laser defusers seem to work better.
LI does NOT use 4 on the front (nor the rear??). There are two units for front, each (1) mounted as close to headlights as possible.
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Jun 20, 2011 | 04:47 PM
  #100  
Quote: That's good to know (the net is full of unfounded rumors) I was just about to buy the L.I. to hook up to a V1. Thanks for the info.
The LI will act/operate independently of the V-1 or whatever radar detector you are using.
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