c63 compressor?
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I'm going to start a Weistec installation next week. We'll see what the dyno says before and after along with AFRs. Hopefully it doesn't make the motor go boom.
Jim
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It needs to be remembered that there are two mostly incompatible ways to get power out of the car. A full normally aspirated tune with intake and exhaust mods. This will yield a lot of power.
Somewhat more power can be had with forced induction. In some cars, a lot more. But on a high compression motor you can't generally combine both tuning methods, they aren't usually compatible. You can't blow in 5-8 psi and also have a lot of timing in the motor on high compression engines. You'll blow it up.
So, when a SC is supposed to make an additional 125 HP lets say and maybe a tune adds 100, you don't get 225 by tuning a SC motor. You get maybe 140-150HP.
I think its easy to be disappointed in a SC or turbo application on a high compression motor with lots of room for NA tuning because of this casual thought that the SC will add its rated power to gains seen from NA modification programs.
I probably haven't expressed myself well on this but I hope I'm understandable.
Jim
It needs to be remembered that there are two mostly incompatible ways to get power out of the car. A full normally aspirated tune with intake and exhaust mods. This will yield a lot of power.
Somewhat more power can be had with forced induction. In some cars, a lot more. But on a high compression motor you can't generally combine both tuning methods, they aren't usually compatible. You can't blow in 5-8 psi and also have a lot of timing in the motor on high compression engines. You'll blow it up.
So, when a SC is supposed to make an additional 125 HP lets say and maybe a tune adds 100, you don't get 225 by tuning a SC motor. You get maybe 140-150HP.
I think its easy to be disappointed in a SC or turbo application on a high compression motor with lots of room for NA tuning because of this casual thought that the SC will add its rated power to gains seen from NA modification programs.
I probably haven't expressed myself well on this but I hope I'm understandable.
Jim
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It needs to be remembered that there are two mostly incompatible ways to get power out of the car. A full normally aspirated tune with intake and exhaust mods. This will yield a lot of power.
Somewhat more power can be had with forced induction. In some cars, a lot more. But on a high compression motor you can't generally combine both tuning methods, they aren't usually compatible. You can't blow in 5-8 psi and also have a lot of timing in the motor on high compression engines. You'll blow it up.
So, when a SC is supposed to make an additional 125 HP lets say and maybe a tune adds 100, you don't get 225 by tuning a SC motor. You get maybe 140-150HP.
I think its easy to be disappointed in a SC or turbo application on a high compression motor with lots of room for NA tuning because of this casual thought that the SC will add its rated power to gains seen from NA modification programs.
I probably haven't expressed myself well on this but I hope I'm understandable.
Jim
It needs to be remembered that there are two mostly incompatible ways to get power out of the car. A full normally aspirated tune with intake and exhaust mods. This will yield a lot of power.
Somewhat more power can be had with forced induction. In some cars, a lot more. But on a high compression motor you can't generally combine both tuning methods, they aren't usually compatible. You can't blow in 5-8 psi and also have a lot of timing in the motor on high compression engines. You'll blow it up.
So, when a SC is supposed to make an additional 125 HP lets say and maybe a tune adds 100, you don't get 225 by tuning a SC motor. You get maybe 140-150HP.
I think its easy to be disappointed in a SC or turbo application on a high compression motor with lots of room for NA tuning because of this casual thought that the SC will add its rated power to gains seen from NA modification programs.
I probably haven't expressed myself well on this but I hope I'm understandable.
Jim
A c63 which was fully modded by MHP with the v3 tune recently had the weistec supercharger, only added 40 rwhp.
I am still waiting for a 63 apllictation dynoing around 600 rwhp
someone needs to come out with low pressure pistons for this engine, and all hell will break loose
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JE Pistons will do it and there are tons of piston parameters you can tweak. I have no idea how much the rods will take.
http://www.jepistons.com
They have made custom forged pistons for me multiple times.
Jim
http://www.jepistons.com
They have made custom forged pistons for me multiple times.
Jim
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JE Pistons will do it and there are tons of piston parameters you can tweak. I have no idea how much the rods will take.
http://www.jepistons.com
They have made custom forged pistons for me multiple times.
Jim
http://www.jepistons.com
They have made custom forged pistons for me multiple times.
Jim
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They made pistons for my E36 M3 when I converted it to turbo. Custom ring sizes, skirts, valve dishes to prevent interference. They do it all.
Jim
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