100% way of confirming PPP and LSD on a C63.
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100% way of confirming PPP and LSD on a C63.
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I have been looking for a 10 model with PPP and LSD for a while. I have come across a 10 model which is advertised as having PPP(bhp upgrade) with LSD(private sale). I have contacted the dealer to check wether the car has the PPP and LSD. Initially thet claimed it had the PPP and claimed it did not have LSD. The owner contacted the garage and now they claim it DOES have LSD. I asked them their evidence and they claim that all new models have the LSD. Reading up on some forums had led me to believe that LSD did not come as standard with performance package. I have typed in the VIN no on a website and I get the following items coming up:
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
471 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL.
Sorry for rambling post but to summarise can someone clarify wether this car has the PPP with bhp upgrade and lsd? Or is their another way to check 100% if these are included.
Any help greatly appreciated
I have been looking for a 10 model with PPP and LSD for a while. I have come across a 10 model which is advertised as having PPP(bhp upgrade) with LSD(private sale). I have contacted the dealer to check wether the car has the PPP and LSD. Initially thet claimed it had the PPP and claimed it did not have LSD. The owner contacted the garage and now they claim it DOES have LSD. I asked them their evidence and they claim that all new models have the LSD. Reading up on some forums had led me to believe that LSD did not come as standard with performance package. I have typed in the VIN no on a website and I get the following items coming up:
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
471 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL.
Sorry for rambling post but to summarise can someone clarify wether this car has the PPP with bhp upgrade and lsd? Or is their another way to check 100% if these are included.
Any help greatly appreciated
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Not sure how it is for you guys in the US, but here the PPP is easy to spot by opening the bonnet.
The intake manifold will be Titanium Grey (standard is lighter silver colour).
Inside it will have a different steering wheel with Alcantara trim.
Outside the boot lid spoiler is carbon, and the calipers are red. And if you're really eagle eyed the brake disc (rotors) will be different as well.
The intake manifold will be Titanium Grey (standard is lighter silver colour).
Inside it will have a different steering wheel with Alcantara trim.
Outside the boot lid spoiler is carbon, and the calipers are red. And if you're really eagle eyed the brake disc (rotors) will be different as well.
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Not sure how it is for you guys in the US, but here the PPP is easy to spot by opening the bonnet.
The intake manifold will be Titanium Grey (standard is lighter silver colour).
Inside it will have a different steering wheel with Alcantara trim.
Outside the boot lid spoiler is carbon, and the calipers are red. And if you're really eagle eyed the brake disc (rotors) will be different as well.
The intake manifold will be Titanium Grey (standard is lighter silver colour).
Inside it will have a different steering wheel with Alcantara trim.
Outside the boot lid spoiler is carbon, and the calipers are red. And if you're really eagle eyed the brake disc (rotors) will be different as well.
Btw i am also from uk!
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Mine was brand new on 23rd December last year amd I specced it with the P30 PPP.
As for the LSD it is listed as option number 471. This can be confirmed on the original build list the should have come with the car from new. Or the supplying dealer should and indeed would have record of this.
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Hi there
I have been looking for a 10 model with PPP and LSD for a while. I have come across a 10 model which is advertised as having PPP(bhp upgrade) with LSD(private sale). I have contacted the dealer to check wether the car has the PPP and LSD. Initially thet claimed it had the PPP and claimed it did not have LSD. The owner contacted the garage and now they claim it DOES have LSD. I asked them their evidence and they claim that all new models have the LSD. Reading up on some forums had led me to believe that LSD did not come as standard with performance package. I have typed in the VIN no on a website and I get the following items coming up:
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
471 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL.
Sorry for rambling post but to summarise can someone clarify wether this car has the PPP with bhp upgrade and lsd? Or is their another way to check 100% if these are included.
Any help greatly appreciated
I have been looking for a 10 model with PPP and LSD for a while. I have come across a 10 model which is advertised as having PPP(bhp upgrade) with LSD(private sale). I have contacted the dealer to check wether the car has the PPP and LSD. Initially thet claimed it had the PPP and claimed it did not have LSD. The owner contacted the garage and now they claim it DOES have LSD. I asked them their evidence and they claim that all new models have the LSD. Reading up on some forums had led me to believe that LSD did not come as standard with performance package. I have typed in the VIN no on a website and I get the following items coming up:
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
471 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL.
Sorry for rambling post but to summarise can someone clarify wether this car has the PPP with bhp upgrade and lsd? Or is their another way to check 100% if these are included.
Any help greatly appreciated
The performance package plus that replaced the PP in the latter half of the '10 models no longer came with LSD as standard. The LSD became a standalone option. What the PPP did include was a power bump and the little cosmetic mods I mentioned above. As such, it is possible that a '10 C63 with PPP does not have LSD. With that said, many of the C63s brought into the US with the PPP package also included the LSD option--presumably because the two options were somewhat complementary.
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Do donuts and look for even tire wear then you have an LSD, if you get uneven wear.. you don't
Simple (okay, probably not the most scientific.. but definitely a more fun way to check)
Simple (okay, probably not the most scientific.. but definitely a more fun way to check)
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Simply get the vin number and have a dealer run a vmi. This will pull up the option codes. If it has either or both it will be on the vmi. I would think that any dealer could check this over the phone for you. Also if the owner still had the window sticker.
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As mentioned, check for the carbon spoiler, red calipers and titanium color intake. The LSD is a stand alone option and not standard.
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Absolute guarantee posi test:
Park car on level ground.
Block at least one front wheel
Put car in neutral
Raise one rear wheel off ground.
Try to spin wheel.
If it spins, its an open diff, if it does not, you have a posi.
But then again, it is easier to just have MB run the vin
On lousy clutch type posi's it should take at least 40 ft/lbs of torque to spin the rear wheel. on a GOOD cone style/gear, you will NOT spin it.
Park car on level ground.
Block at least one front wheel
Put car in neutral
Raise one rear wheel off ground.
Try to spin wheel.
If it spins, its an open diff, if it does not, you have a posi.
But then again, it is easier to just have MB run the vin
On lousy clutch type posi's it should take at least 40 ft/lbs of torque to spin the rear wheel. on a GOOD cone style/gear, you will NOT spin it.
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Hey, is this car in Los Angeles and Iridium Silver?
I saw a PP sale car around the first of the year and it was one of the "bridge" cars with P30 without the harsh suspension but with the steering wheel and brakes. The guy was a movie-of-the-week type and clueless about the car. I found the original window sticker folded up in the owners manual in the glovebox. The LSD was a separate line item on the option sheet. Carbon fiber trim, too. There was a (credit) on the window sticker and a disclaimer about not having the "performance suspension" components.
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I saw a PP sale car around the first of the year and it was one of the "bridge" cars with P30 without the harsh suspension but with the steering wheel and brakes. The guy was a movie-of-the-week type and clueless about the car. I found the original window sticker folded up in the owners manual in the glovebox. The LSD was a separate line item on the option sheet. Carbon fiber trim, too. There was a (credit) on the window sticker and a disclaimer about not having the "performance suspension" components.
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The Performance package for 08 to early '10 models do include the LSD (except for a few released in '08). The giveaway for a C63 which has been specced with the P30 kit is its alcantara steering wheel (and ultra hard suspension) and the lack of red brake calipers/cf spoiler.
The performance package plus that replaced the PP in the latter half of the '10 models no longer came with LSD as standard. The LSD became a standalone option. What the PPP did include was a power bump and the little cosmetic mods I mentioned above. As such, it is possible that a '10 C63 with PPP does not have LSD. With that said, many of the C63s brought into the US with the PPP package also included the LSD option--presumably because the two options were somewhat complementary.
The performance package plus that replaced the PP in the latter half of the '10 models no longer came with LSD as standard. The LSD became a standalone option. What the PPP did include was a power bump and the little cosmetic mods I mentioned above. As such, it is possible that a '10 C63 with PPP does not have LSD. With that said, many of the C63s brought into the US with the PPP package also included the LSD option--presumably because the two options were somewhat complementary.
See this thread for valuable information:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...n-problem.html
While I know the vehicle you're looking at is an '10, therefore panzerjager provides very accurate input.