mthis

The only light weight I had that day was the rear wheels no skinnies no batt no seat removed (seat got take out in the end of the day and the lightweight batt got put in for 1 pass)

You rite NOW I do have more mods but they still not installed
Evo rotors lightweigt wheels Cf hood and trunk plus some more

And for u info I always run race gas at the track since day 1 my headers went on to now so that was the same. And the tune was tuned for 93.
Now I have a race gas tune that I used once and that was this year and it ran 11.3's all day.

propain

Its always dead. Yeah LZH drama, thats about it. All having to do with the Weistec SC and track data or the lack of it.

Hope all is well with you, its been a while.

propain

So both runs were with the same weight? The only big difference was DA?

JHDavis

I'll have to do some catching up.

Nothing new with carts car? I should probably read before asking...

What's new with you?

Uber busy that's about it, that and this heat/humidity can go back to the tropics or wherever it's supposed to be, turbo cars suck in the summer.

JHDavis

I'm confused, what days? Sorry just not following. Did your best passes come with the seat removed and light weight batt in place?

mthis

You to lol. I refuse to log in while that Douche is a member there.

propain

Yeah, just read up on it. Nothing new since his "Belt" problems. The dyno numbers look sick though. There is also an aleged 60-130 in 6 seconds flat. I just want some track data as do many others. We get flamed every time we ask for it and the drama ensues.

Yeah, this heat is just no fun for cars. Turbo's suck in the winter too!! 1 pass every 30 mins on that SL!

mthis

Sry I'll clear it up.
My best pass came with no batt and no seat removed.
The only thing I had dift from Atco run in Dec to MIR run that day was The tune and rear drag wheels.

propain

I made a post there saying "Im with Mthis, I wont come back until he is banned" Sticky moderated my post in his Democratic society where the people control the content.. unless he doesnt like it.. lol.. Sticky is friends with that douche so hes not going anywhere.

I wasnt going to post again but then this video came up.

JHDavis

The 60-130 numbers are a new development but without a vbox readout I'm not sure I'd take them to heart. Thanks for the update, seems I didn't miss much on that.

Hey now we're working on getting the SL cooled down for fall racing. Not even worth starting up today (98 degrees here WTF???).

JHDavis

Thanks! Last question, both tunes were 93 octane?

Sincity

Who are you talking about?

propain

Yeah, that was LZH drama. I asked him for the chart and he said "Ohhh, someone called me on the phone and told me" LOL.

The SC seems to make a lot of power. The Dyno chart they posted looks good except it doesnt show the correction so 600WHP might be more like 580 SAE if it was uncorrected.

I cant wait for the fall. Good times, I hope to see you around.

Sin were talking about LZH. He used to post on here. He was on probation about 3 times and got banned.

mthis

Some rich guy that's a computer gangsta.

mthis

Yes. The only runs I have with race gas tune was when we went to Atco THIS year.

Sincity

Got it Mthis and Propain.

I didn't get a chance to talk to him (LZH) when Jim rented the track @ Fontana but did get a chance to meet Jim. I have messaged Jim back and forth over the past two years and back then, he didn't strike me as a jerk when you are one-on-one with him. In person, he's actually pretty cool.

JHDavis

Ok but you went from 18" wheels and DRs to lightweight 17s and DRs which is good for some ET and MPH alone. Correct?

JHDavis

MHP posted OE's PM on BB.com, no getting out of it now.

Question: Why lie about something like this? Sooo stupid.

propain

Trap's would go down with the smaller rim but his ET's should have improved.

He was about 1 10th faster with the MHP tune but had amazing DA. Factor in the rims and its probably good for 1/2 a 10th. The DA however is good for 2 10th's.

JHDavis

The shorter tire will help both 60' (ET) and MPH as it's adding torque multiplication throughout the entire powerband. Going from 18s to 17s helps with a better launch (more sidewall) and again due to tire height, plus weight reduction. Combined the switch is good for a few tenths and MPH alone.

propain

In my experience the smaller the rim the lower the trap speed. The tire height though changes things. More sidewall, more flex, better launch. The weight of course is a big factor as well.

Ill have to test his setup in the fall and see if I can shave 2 10th's off my tune only time.

My guess is both tune on his car in equal DA would be damn close. I would have to compare both setups though as far as rim size and weight and the type of DR he used.

Either way it sounds like a fun day at the track.

MBH motorsports

As stated by the owner of the other car (Xtyper) The reason they did the head to head race was to see if something was wrong with xtyper's car. Its clear as day something was. As he states ACG found that the ECU had been updated by the dealer. So after the races, with the soul reason to see if something was wrong. The video gets spun into a "Vs" race. Showing one car, that clearly looks to have at least 50 more horsepower over the other. Does anyone else see this?

The video title suggests the cars have the same type mods. When really that's not the case.

I am extremely confident Jame and his team will get Xtyper back in tip top shape. That is for sure the most important thing.

propain

I don't know about clear as day, but I wouldn't mind Jeremy giving it another go after he sorts out his issues.

The reflash or partial reflash seems like BS to me. If he was flashed back to stock he would have thrown a CEL and with headers and no cats the car would have run like very noticeable crap.

A partial reflash as suggested seems like a load of crap to me also. Id like to see more examples of this because I don't see how its possible. I'm no tuner but isn't it a file? Not many files. To suggest they went into the file and picked the elements they wanted to update rather than just flash it with the updates and the elements that were unchanged all at once seems counter intuitive to me. But im not a tuner, id really like to hear how this is possible.

He either got a bad tune or he had some bad gas or the OE tune beat his setup.

Eric is a good guy and I hope he gets it sorted out. When he thinks the car is ready as I said before I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch either.

xtyper

Got it all sorted today and have a fresh tune from James. Car runs like a champ again (at least it "feels" better). Much thanks to him and Weistec who graciously loaned us the flashing equipment to do it at their facility. Great group of guys and amazing work being done with those superchargers.

Unfortunately we didn't have time to do another set of dynos, but it seems like most people here don't care about those anyway and want runs instead. I asked Jeremy to do a few more runs with me but for now he is declining until I get more considerable mods.

Guess it's time to invest in a vbox.

propain

Glad you got it sorted out Eric! Does it feel better to you now? Stronger?

Never mind the Vbox. Bring it to the track in the fall and show us what its capable of.