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I have all the info... Do you expect me to type it out? What else do you need? Email you?

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wawy

Lol..no, this is good - thanks

coladin

I asked you how much was the trade. This is what you said:

"I bought my C63 for 52K out the door due to tax savings from another car I traded in. I dont know if this applies in Canada but if you trade in a car in the US the value of the car trade is taken off the new car puchase and you only pay taxes on whats left. The car I traded kept my taxes down to little to nothing on the new purchase"

You didn't answer it.

I know you got 50K for your trade, I am interested in the car you traded in for the 2009 model.

I asked about how much it was , you said 52K, I asked if that was with taxes. You say you paid $300 in taxes which I am thinking you must have meant 3000? So 49K plus whatever your trade was.

An 08 C63 was 80K out the door in my neck of the woods with taxes, full jam. People are "asking" for 39K for that three year old AMG. 50% which is the norm for cars after three years. My residual is 55% after three years. If I had 80K to burn, I would buy something and make money with it, whether here or in Arizona where people are making a mint buying property at depressed values. That was my point about throwing 80K on a depreciating asset. If you have the income to pay for a car I don't think it is unwise to invest the capital on something that will go up in value. Or course depending on one's debtload, they may want to buy a car outright or , I don't know, find it works best for them.

I was simply trying to follow what you were saying because you didn't give the info I asked for. I try to treat people with respect but you don't come off that way. I am keeping up but your information to complete the equation is incomplete . My math is fine.

coladin

Now you are being intellectually dishonest. This is not the time/place for this forum but even as a Canadian I know just as much as you do why the housing collapse happened. Your country may be the only one in the world that has seen a major housing collapse. Canada is not like that nor most of the other stable countries. Don't make yourself look the fool although the food as a "bad investment" already didn't help matters...

propain

I dont know how to spell it out for you anymore. Ive stated every number time multiple times including the original trade which was 49K as stated above and here. https://mbworld.org/forums/4772787-post14.html

Im sorry but I get frustrated with idiots quickly. Thats why I could never be a teacher.

Maybe if I yell it will help since you are such a twit.

49K!!!!!! is what my original trade is was in 2009 when I purchased my 2009 C63. The 2009 C63 price was 52K!!!!!!

52k!!!!! minus 49K!!!!!! equals 3k!!!!! 3K is the taxable amount!!!!!!!!!!!! 3K X 1.08625 = $3258.75. THAT MEANS I PAID $258.75 IN TAXES ON MY 2009 C63 AT PURCHASE.

52,258.75 was my out the door invoice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do I need to go over the amount I put down and financed again?

WOW you are slow. My 6 year old would have been able to keep up at this point...

propain

The funny part is the original trade isnt even a number needed for the equation. The only numbers needed were the purchase amount the term and the down payment.

You are hanging on to numbers that dont even apply to subject and on top of it you are now trying to change the subject about the housing market. The food consuption was joke sorry you missed it. Not much of a surprise though.

BTW I quoted your post with the insult before you edited it away. Nice try.

enochroot

I thought all Canadians are supposed to be nice?

I was always under the assumption if you own your own business, which I do, then leasing is far better for the tax write off benefits.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to buy my 2012 or lease.

propain, your plan certainly makes good sense but I don't understand the tax ramifications vs leasing.

Any CPA's here?

coladin

I shouldn't have edited it.

Why did you have to get a loan for 52K when you traded in a 49K car? Could you not just write a cheque for $3258.75? You still don't make sense unless you rolled over a loan form the car you traded in at 49K...

coladin

Only in America is a house a depreciating asset because of a multitude of issues. In almost every other G20 country, houses are good investments and your logic is based on an unprecedented humongous collapse that I am sure Mr. Buffet was well insulated from...

propain

Both can be written off. When you write off a lease you write it off as a gross rental expense. When you write off a purchase its written off as payments of principal and interest and also reports depreciation expense or deduction with respect to the purchased asset.

coladin

Lol we are!

propain traded in a 49k car which he didn't own and got a tax break or esle you could add 4G to his equation. Plus whatever deal he got on his car. He made a good deal because 52K to 50K is darn good, no question. I think I was very fair in my conversation until he resorted to being a dick.

propain

Because the previous car had a loan attached to it. I took 15K and put it down on my 2009 C63 as stated about 20 times now.

Again, all inconsequential numbers to the equation. The only thing you needed to worry about was the purchase price, loan term, down payment. You continue to worry about numbers that have no meaning to the final outcome.

propain

Again incorrect. If I owned the car completely and didnt have a loan attached to it I would have still received the tax break on the new purchase.

As to being a dick, your intention was to find holes in my equation. One that you failed miserably at. Your intentions were quite transparent.

coladin

Bah, my intentions...you still speak in half sentences/half truths, whatever, you never stated that you had a loan from yet another car on the 09. That is your pattern and you think it works for you. That's fine, Im done with this my friend.

Oh by the way, this was the first time you stated that the 15K was from the previous car, re-read your posts. I thought the 15K may have been money in the bank but that amount was from the 49K car. Great. Like I said, you don't present things clearly.

propain

You certanly are done my friend. Good try though.

The loan from the pervious car has NOTHING to do with the equation. Do you know how much I owed on my previous car? No. Does it matter? No. Maybe I only owed 5K on it. Does that mean I should have put ALL my money on the next purchase? NO, that would financially stupid.

I took 15K and put it down on the 2009. Its the only number that matters.

You are simply grasping at straws because you cant seem to make any more points. Take care.

coladin

I will.. you too!

nickia

I think part of the reason people lease is because it's convenient.

You don't need to worry about securing an initial loan from your bank or sell the car later to repay the loan.

I believe financing is also a better option if you intend to keep the car. The finance rate is usually lower than lease rate.

I personally will not buy a new car with cash because the initial outlay is just too great - the money can be put else where for better use.

I will start buying new cars in cash once I have 50-100million in asset.

ZephyrAMG

Yeah If you get a low interest rate. For some of the kids buying these expensive cars they are getting 6-8% interest rates just to act cool like they can afford a new Benz AMG. Not many get approved for low rates so in essence they are paying almost $1000 more a year just to roll in a car they cant pay to play in.

And the whole lease thing is a funny position to be in. Yeah you can get a new car every so often but there are so many lmitations, ie mileage, scuffs, mods, etc, etc...ITS STILL NOT YOURS.

ZephyrAMG

I can't think of a more transparent explination and helpful inisght in supporting ones argument. You, my friend, have gone above and beyond to help someone understand...

coladin

Even if it is not yours, whether you own your AMG or lease it I don't think any of us here who love our cars would accept scratches or scuffs on the car. We are all car fanatics or else we would be rolling C300s. Mileage thing is kind of a mmot point. Most in my neck of the woods garage their C63s in the winter so they are typically low mileage although there are some who are the exception to the rule. Mods? Usually never stops a lessee if they want to mod, they revert it back at the end anyways.

And, yes, you are right. propain is a very patient individual!

propain

Thank you sir. I think I revealed everything but my books. I was waiting for him to ask for that next.

coladin

Please have your books ready for Monday.

propain

Damn it! I had a whole weekend planned!!

justpetef

97% is huge. Why!?! Do people like the interior *that* much!??!

justpetef

I don't want it to be mine. I don't really care. I'm a city driver so I'm not going to put that many k's on it. My last car had 95km's on it over 7 years - just a bit less than 14k a year... and I drove more then, than I do now. You can still mod, it just has to add value to the car - scuffs, well, I'd get those repaired anyway - and you can build in to your lease a provision which lets you cause $3500 - $7000 of damage without having to pay for it. I was bored of my car after about 4 years though - I wish I'd got something new years ago.