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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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After installing supercharger my car tail is bobbing when accelerate even in straight line on the highway. Would LSD cure this problem? Or its only beneficial for track use (accelerate in turns)?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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The LSD is good for both track and straight line.

Keep in mind the tail will still slide but you will have power and control instead of not having any.

Get OS Giken or Quaife depending on your budget.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chief63
The LSD is good for both track and straight line.

Keep in mind the tail will still slide but you will have power and control instead of not having any.

Get OS Giken or Quaife depending on your budget.
Do you think there is a noticable difference in offered performance between the two options you mentioned above?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Since I don't have hard facts (didn't try quaife), from the comparative reviews I read: the difference in lap times between no LSD VS Quaife VS Os Giken is the same between each. So there is as much difference between no lsd and quaife then quaife and os giken.

In a straight line I don't really know how much of a difference. The shop who installed the differential said most drift guys use quaife and most track guys use os giken.

If you take a 2 minute track, you'll probably shave off 2-3 seconds per lap with a quaife and about 5 seconds with os giken. Sounds about right with my experience.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chief63
Since I don't have hard facts (didn't try quaife), from the comparative reviews I read: the difference in lap times between no LSD VS Quaife VS Os Giken is the same between each. So there is as much difference between no lsd and quaife then quaife and os giken.

In a straight line I don't really know how much of a difference. The shop who installed the differential said most drift guys use quaife and most track guys use os giken.

If you take a 2 minute track, you'll probably shave off 2-3 seconds per lap with a quaife and about 5 seconds with os giken. Sounds about right with my experience.
Thanks.

I know you're approximating, but with what do you attribute the difference in lap times between the Quaife and OS Giken? Does it have to do with effecting corrective lock at different rates? Or is that they have a different percentage of lock capabilities?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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The only explanation for faster lap times I have would be more effective locking on the OS Giken one and ability to lock 100% when exiting turns. This means the car will still push forward exiting out and provide more consistent acceleration out each turn.

I guess they keyword is here is consistency. When you can run consistent hot laps, you can get way ahead.

See it as Quaife allows control maintaining high speed thru a corner while the os giken allows better acceleration thru a corner. Both kind of serve different purposes.

The big advantage is that one of the weaknesses of the C63 is exiting out of corners and putting down all that power ASAP. The C63 is heavy so you really want to minimize the amount of time you spend turning at 100%.

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Originally Posted by chief63
The only explanation for faster lap times I have would be more effective locking on the OS Giken one and ability to lock 100% when exiting turns. This means the car will still push forward exiting out and provide more consistent acceleration out each turn.

I guess they keyword is here is consistency. When you can run consistent hot laps, you can get way ahead.

See it as Quaife allows control maintaining high speed thru a corner while the os giken allows better acceleration thru a corner. Both kind of serve different purposes.

The big advantage is that one of the weaknesses of the C63 is exiting out of corners and putting down all that power ASAP. The C63 is heavy so you really want to minimize the amount of time you spend turning at 100%.
Very good info. That makes sense.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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I am wondering if anyone knows which company makes the OEM LSD, that is included in p30 package?
Owners in the past claim that it's Quaife
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LSD will definitely help you put the power to the ground better, next to a good set of tires.
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