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Old 10-10-2011, 04:20 AM
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The stock C63 only posts 12.9 in the 1/4? I was hoping for better..
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Originally Posted by Point2Point
The November issue of Evo magazine has a comparison test with the C63 Coupe, Boss 302, M3 and RS5. Tested on the same day under the same conditions with the same drivers, the C63 beat the Boss:
1/4 mile - C63 12.9 @ 113.1, Boss 13.0 @ 112.5
0-120 - C63 14.5, Boss 15.8
Originally Posted by King335i
The stock C63 only posts 12.9 in the 1/4? I was hoping for better..
The times in this test were a little slow for ALL of the cars so I wouldn't worry about the 12.9 for the C63. Also, the tests were close enough that slight variations in individual cars could have made a difference. Through the 1/4, all cars were very close but the C63 did seem pull a bit as speeds increased. Keep in mind this C63 did not have the P31 package.
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And i dont think the Driver missed any shifts in that test......

No of course not.. in THAT test they used an Indy driver in the Boss and a 12 year old in the C63.
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Seriously, why do when people post up kill stories... you always have people saying.. "oh, the other drivers must miss shifted..", "oh, look at this link/review/magazine, our cars are not actually as fast you think..."

Instead of congrats the poster, i always see bs about dissing our own cars.
Come the fk on guys, the OP beat a 302. GREAT!! why rain on someone's parade.
+1 It doesn't happen on this site...

The November issue of Evo magazine has a comparison test with the C63 Coupe, Boss 302, M3 and RS5. Tested on the same day under the same conditions with the same drivers, the C63 beat the Boss:
1/4 mile - C63 12.9 @ 113.1, Boss 13.0 @ 112.5
0-120 - C63 14.5, Boss 15.8
Yep that's more like it

No of course not.. in THAT test they used an Indy driver in the Boss and a 12 year old in the C63.
Ahh we finally agree on something

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Originally Posted by propain
No of course not.. in THAT test they used an Indy driver in the Boss and a 12 year old in the C63.
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Originally Posted by Don Nguyen
Reminds of of the Car and Driver magazine I read the other day of them comparing which is the better $50k car right now, either an 06 E63 or '11 Challenger, or something like that.

American engines do have a nice sound to them, I must admit.

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IMO the M156 is the best sounding muscle car engine--better than any Domestic engine.

After the M156, the 6.1 Hemi sounds very nice, then the 5.0 Cayote, and finally the LS3.
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Originally Posted by propain
No of course not.. in THAT test they used an Indy driver in the Boss and a 12 year old in the C63.
I call foul on behalf of the mustang. That 12 year old only weighed 70 pounds
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
I have performance pack and LSD, definitely helped.
What trans mode where you in when you launched?

I have to say I'm impressed that you were able to get a good launch with a C63 on the street. I find it to be very difficult to get a good launch, although it is possible, but unfortunately, you have to roll into the throttle so slow that the only way to start pulling on an equally fast car is to gain on them at higher speeds (like over 60-70 mph).

Also, I think the Mustang had an advantage in this race because the car already starts out lighter weight and with the additional passanger, it could help that car get better traction during the launch.

You must have had a good run, which is great.
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Sonny you need to learn how to drive your car better....don't give the Mustang props cause you don't know what your doing with your own car....
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Originally Posted by melmanc55
Sonny you need to learn how to drive your car better....don't give the Mustang props cause you don't know what your doing with your own car....
Ouch..

I will give the Mustang props because it is a driver's race between it and the C63.

I'm not sure what C63 you're driving, but the C63 is not a car that you will win a lot of races from digs on the street. It doesn't hook on street tires that are not warmed up.
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Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig
What trans mode where you in when you launched?

I have to say I'm impressed that you were able to get a good launch with a C63 on the street. I find it to be very difficult to get a good launch, although it is possible, but unfortunately, you have to roll into the throttle so slow that the only way to start pulling on an equally fast car is to gain on them at higher speeds (like over 60-70 mph).

Also, I think the Mustang had an advantage in this race because the car already starts out lighter weight and with the additional passanger, it could help that car get better traction during the launch.

You must have had a good run, which is great.
I was in S+ and was on my way back from a reckless night of partying lol. I have had poor launches where the tires have a hard time hooking up, but my tires are still fresh and I did get an acceptable launch this time (LSD helps).
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
I was in S+ and was on my way back from a reckless night of partying lol. I have had poor launches where the tires have a hard time hooking up, but my tires are still fresh and I did get an acceptable launch this time (LSD helps).
I agree, the LSD helps.

Well, great job.
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Ouch..

I will give the Mustang props because it is a driver's race between it and the C63.

I'm not sure what C63 you're driving, but the C63 is not a car that you will win a lot of races from digs on the street. It doesn't hook on street tires that are not warmed up.
Ok from a dig you're right but from a roll?
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Originally Posted by melmanc55
Ok from a dig you're right but from a roll?
Yeah, from a roll, it's very capable.
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Originally Posted by melmanc55
Ok from a dig you're right but from a roll?
Roll racing is for Honda's. Real men race from a dig.

FYI Sonny has a lot of racing experience. He is a humble guy and a nice guy but don't let that fool ya.
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Originally Posted by propain
Roll racing is for Honda's. Real men race from a dig.

FYI Sonny has a lot of racing experience. He is a humble guy and a nice guy but don't let that fool ya.
LOL.. I trained under John Force.

Somewhere I imagine Dodger just laughing right now.
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Originally Posted by Point2Point
The November issue of Evo magazine has a comparison test with the C63 Coupe, Boss 302, M3 and RS5. Tested on the same day under the same conditions with the same drivers, the C63 beat the Boss:
1/4 mile - C63 12.9 @ 113.1, Boss 13.0 @ 112.5
0-120 - C63 14.5, Boss 15.8
Tight run in the 1/4. But after that the Boss hits a brick wall!
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Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig
LOL.. I trained under John Force.

Somewhere I imagine Dodger just laughing right now.

Why would he laugh?
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Tight run in the 1/4. But after that the Boss hits a brick wall!
You raced one? I have been looking for 60-130 data all over the place and I cant find any.

What kinda data you got to back that up? I don't doubt it, just curious as to what it does.
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Originally Posted by propain
You raced one? I have been looking for 60-130 data all over the place and I cant find any.

What kinda data you got to back that up? I don't doubt it, just curious as to what it does.
If there is a wall for the 302 it is beyond 150 mph. The one that was at our last track weekend was able to hit straight away speeds within 5 mph of my car with tune and headers. And that was with me in his passenger seat while my car had no passenger seat and a 15 pound Sparko driver seat.

Hats off to the OP for winning the day during his encounter.

However a few seconds of accelerating on a public street doesn't tell the whole story. One thing for sure about these forums is the home team always wins. Any realistic conversation where another car performs well is not wanted here. You saw how the crowd reacted to the times you posted. I personally want the truth and not just what we can all read (and quote) from magazines. Spend enough days at road courses and you will get a pretty good idea of what other cars are and aren't capable of. Most of the other drivers I meet are stunned by how well the Merc performs which initiates some great conversation amongst guys who love cars period. Try and imagine the forum conversation going like that? It just doesn't happen which is a shame because we all miss out when dissenting opinion is squashed.
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
I was in S+ and was on my way back from a reckless night of partying lol. I have had poor launches where the tires have a hard time hooking up, but my tires are still fresh and I did get an acceptable launch this time (LSD helps).
What do you mean by

"reckless night of partying?"


Don't drink and drive, you can kill yourself but don't harm anyone else....
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Originally Posted by hhughes1
If there is a wall for the 302 it is beyond 150 mph. The one that was at our last track weekend was able to hit straight away speeds within 5 mph of my car with tune and headers. And that was with me in his passenger seat while my car had no passenger seat and a 15 pound Sparko driver seat.

Hats off to the OP for winning the day during his encounter.

However a few seconds of accelerating on a public street doesn't tell the whole story. One thing for sure about these forums is the home team always wins. Any realistic conversation where another car performs well is not wanted here. You saw how the crowd reacted to the times you posted. I personally want the truth and not just what we can all read (and quote) from magazines. Spend enough days at road courses and you will get a pretty good idea of what other cars are and aren't capable of. Most of the other drivers I meet are stunned by how well the Merc performs which initiates some great conversation amongst guys who love cars period. Try and imagine the forum conversation going like that? It just doesn't happen which is a shame because we all miss out when dissenting opinion is squashed.
Very well said.
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Originally Posted by Jeffield
What do you mean by

"reckless night of partying?"


Don't drink and drive, you can kill yourself but don't harm anyone else....
No, I dont drink and drive! Too early to feel hungover, I was just still feeling great from the night before and eager to chirp, race, and make the guy feel like the "Putz"(taken from another thread) I felt he was.

As far as "reckless", some buddies of mine went to the bar destroyed our table when too many girls started dancing on it (pretty jokes watching 10 girls fall in heels[no one got hurt though, incase you ask ])) got kicked out then while walking back in a group started causing more public damages and acting stupid young.



Besides that thanks for the congrats everyone! For those of you who think I shouldve lost I probably wouldve if he were using his TRACK KEY jks. The Boss 302 is a wicked car, I guess I was just fortunate to race one with the wrong driver! or maybe it was just my AMG that ran itself perfectly. Ill never know, nor ever really care!
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
No, I dont drink and drive! Too early to feel hungover, I was just still feeling great from the night before and eager to chirp, race, and make the guy feel like the "Putz"(taken from another thread) I felt he was.

As far as "reckless", some buddies of mine went to the bar destroyed our table when too many girls started dancing on it (pretty jokes watching 10 girls fall in heels[no one got hurt though, incase you ask ])) got kicked out then while walking back in a group started causing more public damages and acting stupid young.



Besides that thanks for the congrats everyone! For those of you who think I shouldve lost I probably wouldve if he were using his TRACK KEY jks. The Boss 302 is a wicked car, I guess I was just fortunate to race one with the wrong driver! or maybe it was just my AMG that ran itself perfectly. Ill never know, nor ever really care!

Now I question if you won at all.


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