WTH..... "limp Mode"!!!!!
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If this was that plain and simple, then putting the car back stock would solve the issue unless somehow once an ECU is cracked, there is always a ghost in the machine??? I am not an engineer so maybe someone with a lot of experience in this matter can chime in.
Could replacing the ECU be a solution?
Sorry you are having that issue. I feel for you because I would be really angry having to make payments on a car that right now cannot be driven and fixed.
Please keep us updated. The dealer should hopefully find a fix soon.
The negative of all this is that it is probably out of your own pocket for all the repairs and the dealer will flag the car as being modded and future warranty is voided (let's not get in a side discussion whether this is right or not)
Could replacing the ECU be a solution?
Sorry you are having that issue. I feel for you because I would be really angry having to make payments on a car that right now cannot be driven and fixed.
Please keep us updated. The dealer should hopefully find a fix soon.
The negative of all this is that it is probably out of your own pocket for all the repairs and the dealer will flag the car as being modded and future warranty is voided (let's not get in a side discussion whether this is right or not)
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I have never been convinced about electronic throtles, I still consider the cable operated thotle to be more than sufficient, typically they last the lie of the car without issues or adjustments. I hope that is just a sensor and nothing major.
Are you running the Evo sport pulley?
Are you running the Evo sport pulley?
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If this was that plain and simple, then putting the car back stock would solve the issue unless somehow once an ECU is cracked, there is always a ghost in the machine??? I am not an engineer so maybe someone with a lot of experience in this matter can chime in.
Could replacing the ECU be a solution?
Could replacing the ECU be a solution?
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Each ecu is tuned according to your engine, individually, when it comes from the factory. Unless you have them create a second ecu for you (at the dealership), then I believe, or it is my understanding, that you cannot get your ecu back to stock once it's tuned. That seems a bit odd to me, but it is what I've read. I have also not read an of an instance where a stock car experienced this exact issue. Only cars with a tune seem to be susceptible to this type of failure. I've been paying particular attention because I was thinking about getting my engine tuned.
Where is your source for this claim that each car has a one of kind factory tune?
I highly doubt this.
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Again - this is just what I've gathered from various threads here on the forum during my research as to whether I was going to have a tune done, and could just be speculation - I am not certain that it's fact. Perhaps someone other can either deny or confirm this belief that's more familiar with ECU/Warranty issues.
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One of the other threads - I'm sure you'll find it if you look hard enough - I don't know it to be a fact, and they can, or do re-create it at the dealership, or perhaps run another stock tune on your car - because you can buy a secondary ECU (although that'd be a good tip-off to them that you're tuning the ECU and they it may void your warranty).
Again - this is just what I've gathered from various threads here on the forum during my research as to whether I was going to have a tune done, and could just be speculation - I am not certain that it's fact. Perhaps someone other can either deny or confirm this belief that's more familiar with ECU/Warranty issues.
Again - this is just what I've gathered from various threads here on the forum during my research as to whether I was going to have a tune done, and could just be speculation - I am not certain that it's fact. Perhaps someone other can either deny or confirm this belief that's more familiar with ECU/Warranty issues.
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Each ecu is tuned according to your engine, individually, when it comes from the factory. Unless you have them create a second ecu for you (at the dealership), then I believe, or it is my understanding, that you cannot get your ecu back to stock once it's tuned. That seems a bit odd to me, but it is what I've read. I have also not read an of an instance where a stock car experienced this exact issue. Only cars with a tune seem to be susceptible to this type of failure. I've been paying particular attention because I was thinking about getting my engine tuned.
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One of the other threads - I'm sure you'll find it if you look hard enough - I don't know it to be a fact, and they can, or do re-create it at the dealership, or perhaps run another stock tune on your car - because you can buy a secondary ECU (although that'd be a good tip-off to them that you're tuning the ECU and they it may void your warranty).
Again - this is just what I've gathered from various threads here on the forum during my research as to whether I was going to have a tune done, and could just be speculation - I am not certain that it's fact. Perhaps someone other can either deny or confirm this belief that's more familiar with ECU/Warranty issues.
Again - this is just what I've gathered from various threads here on the forum during my research as to whether I was going to have a tune done, and could just be speculation - I am not certain that it's fact. Perhaps someone other can either deny or confirm this belief that's more familiar with ECU/Warranty issues.
Just get a tune and quit worrying about it. My dealership knows I have the secondary ECU. But what can they prove?? I bought it, never got it tuned, had second thoughts...
I have had the car in there for several warranty issues related to the engine and not a word from them.
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My stock 2012 p31 coupe has that issue and AMG knows of this and is looking into a fix. i made a post about it a while back. i was promised that by the end of april i should get a fix (from AMG).
car runs perfectly i only noticed it happen when i went on the track and pushed the car and drove it hard.
car runs perfectly i only noticed it happen when i went on the track and pushed the car and drove it hard.
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i think my tuner have solve the issue for me.
The c63 will only go limp mode in sport or manual mode, this is due to the auto-blipping function. I haven't experience limp mode in C mode before, always in sport or manual, especially when blipping down.
So what u need to do is to change to the new pedal, which gives more accurate reading, that is what i was told.
Like some people, even after changing the new pedal, the limp mode happens.
Next you need to reset your car adaptation back to zero, factory setting. Because of the old pedal, the adaptation data is messed up and likely to be out of range, so even with new pedal and readings, crap still happens.
After setting back to factory adaptation, the car will learn your driving pattern from scratch again.
BTW, mine is custom tuned, so i think the limp mode has nothing to do with the tuning. My throttle is now set to open even bigger with the new pedal, so any error will cause the car to go limp mode even easier. so far no problem for me.
i hope this helps people out there still with this problem.
The c63 will only go limp mode in sport or manual mode, this is due to the auto-blipping function. I haven't experience limp mode in C mode before, always in sport or manual, especially when blipping down.
So what u need to do is to change to the new pedal, which gives more accurate reading, that is what i was told.
Like some people, even after changing the new pedal, the limp mode happens.
Next you need to reset your car adaptation back to zero, factory setting. Because of the old pedal, the adaptation data is messed up and likely to be out of range, so even with new pedal and readings, crap still happens.
After setting back to factory adaptation, the car will learn your driving pattern from scratch again.
BTW, mine is custom tuned, so i think the limp mode has nothing to do with the tuning. My throttle is now set to open even bigger with the new pedal, so any error will cause the car to go limp mode even easier. so far no problem for me.
i hope this helps people out there still with this problem.
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