Every option there is with premium paint is 83K for the C63.
Every option there is with premium paint is 127K for the E63.

44K difference.

 

There are no reports that MB is going to use the 5.5 TT in the C63, who knows what the future will bring. Just have to wait and see.

 

Yes, they put that engine in that car... how many of those are produced a year vs. the C 63 and what modifications did they do to fit it in? I didn't mean that it was impossible to put the 5.5tt into the car, just that there would be some modifications from the OEM car in order to do so. The C63 benz is already changed from the regular C class to accommodate the larger engine. I completely agree that they want there to be a difference between their lower end Benz's and the higher end cars performance wise etc. That being the case they could still put the 5.5 TT in the C 63 and just limit its boost so that it is still out performed by the higher class benz... they do this with the 6.2 engine now by limiting its performance when compared to other Benz's with the 6.2 in a higher class.

 

And that's exactly why they won't do it again. It's a premium brand with specific tiers and it makes perfect business sense to draw a line when it comes to models and powerplants vs amount paid.

When you drive a $175K S63...they want you to take pride in knowing that you have something better/more than the guy that just pulled up beside you in his $70K C63....

 

Bingo!

I think they really figured no one would be able to crack their ECU. ooops...


Next people will ask when the V12 will be available in the C class next.

 

I am keeping my C63 for a while. I like the current powerdelivery and sound. The fitment of the 5.5l TT will bring lots o wheelspin and uncontrolable driving. Really not worthy considering that the C63 "5.5TT" will probably have the anorexic 255s rear tires and no LSD. No thanks!!! I rather keep a more "managable" power delivery.

 

I doubt the next engine will be boosted. Maybe a tuned version of the 5.5L in the SLK is my guess. Hopefully Mercedes will do it right with PROPER rear tires and a standard rear LSD that has the ability to lock 100% like the Active ///M Diff in the M5.

I can't believe Bi-Xenon headlights are an option on this car.

 

+1
ive been following this thread and really, im not worried about it. the 5.5tt is probably a tuners dream and it gets a little better gas mileage but who can complain about the current 6.2. im completely happy with what i have now and even if the new c63 comes with the 5.5tt i will not be upgrading because of that.

man, 20 years ago a car with 300 hp, 0-60 in 5+ and 1/4 miles in 13+ was everything we could ever ask for. now we have 500 horsepower monsters and it just isnt enough lol.

 

I smoked my tires today through 3rd gear on 275's. I don't know about "Manageable" but it sure is fun in its current form.

 

What is the stock rubber on the E63 and CLS63?

 

C63. PS2's.

40 degrees out today so not so soft compound.

 

Yes...I don't believe my view was contradictory to what you've said here...and I only mentioned that the 5.5TT could be put in the car because you put the pictures of the Brabus C63 with the V12 in it to show me that when I said they wouldn't put a 5.5TT in the next gen C63 that it could fit ( correct?) I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across... that I was wrong when I said the 5.5 TT wouldn't fit with out mods and that they wouldn't be putting it in their new C63 ( because that was my original post) unless perhaps they use the 5.5 naturally aspirated. Obviously they want to differentiate their classes of cars to reflect in pricing, if not why would anyone buy the more expensive when the cheaper will suffice.

 

Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it can be done reliably or on a large production scale. I agree on the delineation between the classes and to be honest, I'm surprised they put the 6.2 in the C to begin with. Detuning it helped provide that separation and is easy to do, but it seems like the easy way out. A N/A 5.5 would be good for weight and fuel economy, but no more easy 70+ HP.

 

Feels like 2005 all over again... Haha

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ture-c55s.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ming-guys.html

If the C63 is getting the 5.5TT, it'll be in a W205 in late 2015 (MY2016)

 

Ha. Everything I've heard about the 5.5TT is that it's too much torque for the C class, at least in the current incarnation. A W205 release would make more sense as it would allow MB to strengthen the car as necessary or at least design the car with the motor in mind.

 

It's not going in the W204, those who think so are dreaming. If it was, it would've gone in the facelifted cars. I can't think of a time when MB changed engines mid cycle that didn't coincide with a facelift.

 

Actually if I recall correctly, the Brabus twin turbos are actually in the rear (trunk area).

 

2011 E63????

 

This magazine did a comparison between the 6.3NA and 5.5TT change that went into the E63 ... brief but still noteworthy.

Scroll down to ----> A naturally aspirated 6.2-litre V8 vs a twin-turbo 5.5-litre V8 – 19 July 2011
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...m-test-review/

 

My bad, I thought that was a facelift. The front look different when the 2011's came out.

 

Factory FI FTW.

Just look at the E55 vs E63 bolt ons vs bolt ons.

 

Mercedes is currently designing the W205, that will replace the W204 platform. This new platform will most likely except the 5.5L Bi-Turbo engine. I can't say if this is a fact or not. But speculations is that it will. I'm happy with my 6.2L NA beast.

 

Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it can be done reliably or on a large production scale.

I agree with this statement, I mean MB stuffed straight 8s in 190Es back in the day, it could be done but never went in production.

 

Trust me, if AMG wanted to stuff any engine into any platform, they will exercise due diligence, to ensure that it will fit without any issues.

 

Callmiro is the one making the most sense here, however emissions restrictions could come into play here. Remember Merc and BMW are not going turbo because they want to, they're going turbo because they have to.