5.5 BiTurbo is reportedly for C63 in MY2013
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I just did an AMG driving course in Vancouver....the 5.5 Bi-turbo....was unbelievable...the two small turbochargers eliminates the lag....the "throat" was amazing.
As well the newly designed C63 in 2014 is supposed to get this engine...atleast this is what they told me!
PS. Be on the lookout for a completely new AMG model!
As well the newly designed C63 in 2014 is supposed to get this engine...atleast this is what they told me!
PS. Be on the lookout for a completely new AMG model!
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I just did an AMG driving course in Vancouver....the 5.5 Bi-turbo....was unbelievable...the two small turbochargers eliminates the lag....the "throat" was amazing.
As well the newly designed C63 in 2014 is supposed to get this engine...atleast this is what they told me!
PS. Be on the lookout for a completely new AMG model!
As well the newly designed C63 in 2014 is supposed to get this engine...atleast this is what they told me!
PS. Be on the lookout for a completely new AMG model!
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Turbo's make lots of power and mod very easy, but they are a maintenance monster. Will all the extra hardware, you have to take alot apart just to do basic maintenance. If you get a boost leak, good luck. They are very hard to locate which adds up to many $$$$ service visits. I've love the boost of my 996tt but the C63 is better daily driver and less of a maintance worry. Still can't figure out why MBZ dropped the SC alternative. Easy to package, makes lots of power, small parasitic drag but doesn't seem to enough to dump the whole idea.
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Turbo's make lots of power and mod very easy, but they are a maintenance monster. Will all the extra hardware, you have to take alot apart just to do basic maintenance. If you get a boost leak, good luck. They are very hard to locate which adds up to many $$$$ service visits. I've love the boost of my 996tt but the C63 is better daily driver and less of a maintance worry. Still can't figure out why MBZ dropped the SC alternative. Easy to package, makes lots of power, small parasitic drag but doesn't seem to enough to dump the whole idea.
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Turbo's make lots of power and mod very easy, but they are a maintenance monster. Will all the extra hardware, you have to take alot apart just to do basic maintenance. If you get a boost leak, good luck. They are very hard to locate which adds up to many $$$$ service visits. I've love the boost of my 996tt but the C63 is better daily driver and less of a maintance worry. Still can't figure out why MBZ dropped the SC alternative. Easy to package, makes lots of power, small parasitic drag but doesn't seem to enough to dump the whole idea.
Built-in obsolescence. Build a engine that is amazing during the warranty period (~100,000 miles) while being prohibitively expensive to maintain afterwards, requiring the owner to buy a new model. We're seeing the end of days in regards to the high performance engine that can get 250k+ miles with only routine maintenance. Look up photos from late-model direct-injection/turbo Audi's and VW's that have their engines opened up at 50-60k miles with so much carbon buildup on the valves that you can scoop it out with a spoon. I love and applaud the "Keep It Simple" mantra with performance cars. It's why I prefer fixed rate dampers instead of complicated adjustable ones, simpler braking systems, etc. Because if I plan on keeping the car past the warranty period, the fewer things that can break, the better.
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Built-in obsolescence. Build a engine that is amazing during the warranty period (~100,000 miles) while being prohibitively expensive to maintain afterwards, requiring the owner to buy a new model. We're seeing the end of days in regards to the high performance engine that can get 250k+ miles with only routine maintenance. Look up photos from late-model direct-injection/turbo Audi's and VW's that have their engines opened up at 50-60k miles with so much carbon buildup on the valves that you can scoop it out with a spoon. I love and applaud the "Keep It Simple" mantra with performance cars. It's why I prefer fixed rate dampers instead of complicated adjustable ones, simpler braking systems, etc. Because if I plan on keeping the car past the warranty period, the fewer things that can break, the better.
+1 sad but true. On the street there is no replacement for displacement.
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Thats why I have all season tires. But today in 55F I spun out in 1st not even WOT on warm tires. 2nd and 3rd no problem. Maybe my LSD helped. BTW care to share our epic run?
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LOL...
First race you had the momentum for sure. 2nd race not the case. 1/2 a car back until 165ish. The cars are close to even but you have the weight advantage so maybe not.
Just bring it to the track on December 5th and take a crack at my record if you feel you got something on me.
That is the only way you will prove yourself! 
First race you had the momentum for sure. 2nd race not the case. 1/2 a car back until 165ish. The cars are close to even but you have the weight advantage so maybe not.
Just bring it to the track on December 5th and take a crack at my record if you feel you got something on me.
That is the only way you will prove yourself!
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LOL...
First race you had the momentum for sure. 2nd race not the case. 1/2 a car back until 165ish. The cars are close to even but you have the weight advantage so maybe not.
Just bring it to the track on December 5th and take a crack at my record if you feel you got something on me. That is the only way you will prove yourself!
First race you had the momentum for sure. 2nd race not the case. 1/2 a car back until 165ish. The cars are close to even but you have the weight advantage so maybe not.
Just bring it to the track on December 5th and take a crack at my record if you feel you got something on me.
That is the only way you will prove yourself! 
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Built-in obsolescence. Build a engine that is amazing during the warranty period (~100,000 miles) while being prohibitively expensive to maintain afterwards, requiring the owner to buy a new model. We're seeing the end of days in regards to the high performance engine that can get 250k+ miles with only routine maintenance. Look up photos from late-model direct-injection/turbo Audi's and VW's that have their engines opened up at 50-60k miles with so much carbon buildup on the valves that you can scoop it out with a spoon. I love and applaud the "Keep It Simple" mantra with performance cars. It's why I prefer fixed rate dampers instead of complicated adjustable ones, simpler braking systems, etc. Because if I plan on keeping the car past the warranty period, the fewer things that can break, the better.
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I looked up the F14's and the rear vs the OEM have a 1 pound difference with the tire on it. Look for Supers thread above for specs. Your lightweight rotors cancel it out for sure. Your racing suspension also helps you and you being lighter makes the biggest difference.
What happened is our cars run pretty equal but you have less weight in it so who knows. You saying that you somehow have an edge is why I said you want to prove something. We already have the video compare of our two cars and you know I was ahead at the end of the 2 runs. We have debated this endlessly. No need to do it again. Track proves everything.
The only way to know would be for you to go to the track and take a shot at my records. Then we will know once and for all.
Until then... bleh... Roll racings is for teenagers. Its fun.. but pointless. Please... just get to the track already. I have given you about 10 pointer now on how to beat my time.
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And you have the P30 package with lightweight rotors and racing suspension. You also weigh 50-75 pounds less than me.
I looked up the F14's and the rear vs the OEM have a 1 pound difference with the tire on it. Look for Supers thread above for specs. Your lightweight rotors cancel it out for sure. Your racing suspension also helps you and you being lighter makes the biggest difference.
What happened is our cars run pretty equal but you have less weight in it so who knows. You saying that you somehow have an edge is why I said you want to prove something. We already have the video compare of our two cars and you know I was ahead at the end of the 2 runs. We have debated this endlessly. No need to do it again. Track proves everything.
The only way to know would be for you to go to the track and take a shot at my records. Then we will know once and for all.
Until then... bleh... Roll racings is for teenagers. Its fun.. but pointless. Please... just get to the track already. I have given you about 10 pointer now on how to beat my time.
I looked up the F14's and the rear vs the OEM have a 1 pound difference with the tire on it. Look for Supers thread above for specs. Your lightweight rotors cancel it out for sure. Your racing suspension also helps you and you being lighter makes the biggest difference.
What happened is our cars run pretty equal but you have less weight in it so who knows. You saying that you somehow have an edge is why I said you want to prove something. We already have the video compare of our two cars and you know I was ahead at the end of the 2 runs. We have debated this endlessly. No need to do it again. Track proves everything.
The only way to know would be for you to go to the track and take a shot at my records. Then we will know once and for all.
Until then... bleh... Roll racings is for teenagers. Its fun.. but pointless. Please... just get to the track already. I have given you about 10 pointer now on how to beat my time.
Which was 1-1 damn close. Sorry I even brought this up.
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A simple.. yeah... I didn't record it either. Those runs were both very close would have been good enough. But no... Typical you. "Looked like I had the edge" needed to be put in there. Come on Jon...
Also that day you stated "I still want to run you again" That is why I said lets go. Its not that big a deal.
I don't do the roll race thing much anyhow. It was fun but I take it with a grain of salt. I want you to come to the track. You and I are some of the tune only OE C63's in NY and OE needs more solid numbers. Think of it as encouragement. I think you skinny *** could edge out my record. Since you are so competitive I didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.
Either way... See you Sunday.
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Don't be sorry. You know exactly why you get the replies you do from me. You were the one who said...
A simple.. yeah... I didn't record it either. Those runs were both very close would have been good enough. But no... Typical you. "Looked like I had the edge" needed to be put in there. Come on Jon...
Also that day you stated "I still want to run you again" That is why I said lets go. Its not that big a deal.
I don't do the roll race thing much anyhow. It was fun but I take it with a grain of salt. I want you to come to the track. You and I are some of the tune only OE C63's in NY and OE needs more solid numbers. Think of it as encouragement. I think you skinny *** could edge out my record. Since you are so competitive I didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.
Either way... See you Sunday.
A simple.. yeah... I didn't record it either. Those runs were both very close would have been good enough. But no... Typical you. "Looked like I had the edge" needed to be put in there. Come on Jon...
Also that day you stated "I still want to run you again" That is why I said lets go. Its not that big a deal.
I don't do the roll race thing much anyhow. It was fun but I take it with a grain of salt. I want you to come to the track. You and I are some of the tune only OE C63's in NY and OE needs more solid numbers. Think of it as encouragement. I think you skinny *** could edge out my record. Since you are so competitive I didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.
Either way... See you Sunday.
