Pic of Hawk DTC70 Pads after two events
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A couple of fast cars.
Pic of Hawk DTC70 Pads after two events
Yikes! My calipers are now burgundy from heat. There has to be some less expensive racing pads, these things are 350 bux, this car is making track days very expensive.
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Try Carbotech. I have XP10s on the front, and they've survived 3 track days with about 50% life left. The downside to the pads are they are loud and you need to send them your cores. The upside is they are a good value option and are an excellent product.
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Quit with the left foot riding on the brake. 
Another option you have are Pagids.
Talk to the guys you run with. What do they use?
Some tracks are harder than others on brakes. There is no simple formula. Plus your skill comes into play. Tracks are more than straight line speed and hard braking into corners. Sometimes being slower on the straight allows for faster corners and faster times.
Another option you have are Pagids.
Talk to the guys you run with. What do they use?
Some tracks are harder than others on brakes. There is no simple formula. Plus your skill comes into play. Tracks are more than straight line speed and hard braking into corners. Sometimes being slower on the straight allows for faster corners and faster times.
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A couple of fast cars.
Thanks for the responses fellas. MSR is a short track (1.7 miles) it's brutal on brakes (probably wouldn't be as brutal if I were a better driver) and 3900 pounds doesn't help.
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A couple of fast cars.
Quit with the left foot riding on the brake.
Another option you have are Pagids.
Talk to the guys you run with. What do they use?
Some tracks are harder than others on brakes. There is no simple formula. Plus your skill comes into play. Tracks are more than straight line speed and hard braking into corners. Sometimes being slower on the straight allows for faster corners and faster times.
Another option you have are Pagids.
Talk to the guys you run with. What do they use?
Some tracks are harder than others on brakes. There is no simple formula. Plus your skill comes into play. Tracks are more than straight line speed and hard braking into corners. Sometimes being slower on the straight allows for faster corners and faster times.
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There are a lot of fast cars. Physics still come into play; its a relationship. Not all pads, rotors are the same size either.
I've run with Porsche 924s and Miatas. I follow them, refusing a pass on a straight, because they are faster overall. And their brakes seem to last longer after talking to them.
I know its apples and oranges; but its something to learn from.
I've run with Porsche 924s and Miatas. I follow them, refusing a pass on a straight, because they are faster overall. And their brakes seem to last longer after talking to them.
I know its apples and oranges; but its something to learn from.
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A couple of fast cars.
There are a lot of fast cars. Physics still come into play; its a relationship. Not all pads, rotors are the same size either.
I've run with Porsche 924s and Miatas. I follow them, refusing a pass on a straight, because they are faster overall. And their brakes seem to last longer after talking to them.
I know its apples and oranges; but its something to learn from.
I've run with Porsche 924s and Miatas. I follow them, refusing a pass on a straight, because they are faster overall. And their brakes seem to last longer after talking to them.
I know its apples and oranges; but its something to learn from.
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Go to C63 brake pads, Stoptech High performance is great.
Go to C63 brake pads, Stoptech High performance is great.
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You get what you pay for. One simple rule of thumb; the more dust, the less friction they have. Which will also affect your rotor wear. Talk to that ' no brakes guys'. You seem to trust him.
Tracking is not cheap. You pay to play.
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Better not be double or you won't be able to fit them. Ask them how much thicker. You may be dealing with a salesmonkey.
You get what you pay for. One simple rule of thumb; the more dust, the less friction they have. Which will also affect your rotor wear. Talk to that ' no brakes guys'. You seem to trust him.
Tracking is not cheap. You pay to play.
You get what you pay for. One simple rule of thumb; the more dust, the less friction they have. Which will also affect your rotor wear. Talk to that ' no brakes guys'. You seem to trust him.
Tracking is not cheap. You pay to play.
and brake less.I have to say, I appreciate all the input, but now I'm beyond confused as to which way to go...
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Unfortunately there is no easy answer. What works for some doesn't necessarily work for others.
I went through a set of Pagid Orange in 6 track days, 4 of which came on a track known to be hard on brakes - if your existing pads aren't at least 3/16" thick put on new ones for the weekend.
I've now switched to Pagid Yellows to see if I get more days.
Another pad I've heard about are Performance Friction 06s. Supposedly they are similar to Pagid Yellows but are slightly cheaper with a similar wear. I may try those next if the Pagid Yellows don't do the trick.
As your 'no brakes needed' guy stated you can extend the longevity of your tires by getting a different alignment. The Michelin SS will stand -2 deg chamber even in DD without abnormal wear. The benefit to you will be they will last longer on the track.
HTH
I went through a set of Pagid Orange in 6 track days, 4 of which came on a track known to be hard on brakes - if your existing pads aren't at least 3/16" thick put on new ones for the weekend.
I've now switched to Pagid Yellows to see if I get more days.
Another pad I've heard about are Performance Friction 06s. Supposedly they are similar to Pagid Yellows but are slightly cheaper with a similar wear. I may try those next if the Pagid Yellows don't do the trick.
As your 'no brakes needed' guy stated you can extend the longevity of your tires by getting a different alignment. The Michelin SS will stand -2 deg chamber even in DD without abnormal wear. The benefit to you will be they will last longer on the track.
HTH
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A couple of fast cars.
Unfortunately there is no easy answer. What works for some doesn't necessarily work for others.
I went through a set of Pagid Orange in 6 track days, 4 of which came on a track known to be hard on brakes - if your existing pads aren't at least 3/16" thick put on new ones for the weekend.
I've now switched to Pagid Yellows to see if I get more days.
Another pad I've heard about are Performance Friction 06s. Supposedly they are similar to Pagid Yellows but are slightly cheaper with a similar wear. I may try those next if the Pagid Yellows don't do the trick.
As your 'no brakes needed' guy stated you can extend the longevity of your tires by getting a different alignment. The Michelin SS will stand -2 deg chamber even in DD without abnormal wear. The benefit to you will be they will last longer on the track.
HTH
I went through a set of Pagid Orange in 6 track days, 4 of which came on a track known to be hard on brakes - if your existing pads aren't at least 3/16" thick put on new ones for the weekend.
I've now switched to Pagid Yellows to see if I get more days.
Another pad I've heard about are Performance Friction 06s. Supposedly they are similar to Pagid Yellows but are slightly cheaper with a similar wear. I may try those next if the Pagid Yellows don't do the trick.
As your 'no brakes needed' guy stated you can extend the longevity of your tires by getting a different alignment. The Michelin SS will stand -2 deg chamber even in DD without abnormal wear. The benefit to you will be they will last longer on the track.
HTH
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I've been using ME20's for the past 2yrs, no complaints, no noise, great trackday pad (4 Events so far on same pads), easier on rotors and even better bite when cold then the stock pad!!
