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Does anyone have access to a copy of the service bulletin? or even the document number? I have not seen one and have yet to see something official about the problem Thanks
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IF YOU SWAP ONE BOLT AT A TIME, DO YOU NEED TO PULL THE HEADS AND REPLACE THE HEAD GASKETS?
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The basic question is: IF YOU SWAP ONE BOLT AT A TIME, DO YOU NEED TO PULL THE HEADS AND REPLACE THE HEAD GASKETS?
This is stupid.
You have to remove the cams to get at the head bolts. This is 90% of the work.
Go another 10% a do it right, remove the head and use a new head gasket.
You're already pot committed, do the job correctly.
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I think you're looking at 12-15 hrs of labor, at about 125/hr, so somewhere around 1500 in labor, don't know what the parts cost.Originally Posted by - Guilty -
Does anyone have an accurate quote for this job from the dealer?
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I don't think it's that cheap otherwise most of the people here would have done it already.
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Well, if you're out of warranty, then it's a relative bargain.Originally Posted by - Guilty -
I don't think it's that cheap otherwise most of the people here would have done it already.
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Parts are $800 from Weistec. I would spend a couple hundred extra and get ARP studs. That doesn't include the head gasket.
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Thanks guys but still need an accurate quote. My SA said $5000 and need someone to confirm.
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WOW.....does that come with a reach around???Originally Posted by - Guilty -
Thanks guys but still need an accurate quote. My SA said $5000 and need someone to confirm.
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WOW.....does that come with a reach around???

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It's posted in the sticky on this issue. It's not the complete bulleting as MBZ has coded the contents other than the title.Originally Posted by jafores
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Depending on the labor rate were you live, I was qouted $5,000 in Cali.Originally Posted by - Guilty -
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You have to remove the cams to get at the head bolts. This is 90% of the work.
Go another 10% a do it right, remove the head and use a new head gasket.
You're already pot committed, do the job correctly.
What he said.Originally Posted by Merc63
This is stupid.You have to remove the cams to get at the head bolts. This is 90% of the work.
Go another 10% a do it right, remove the head and use a new head gasket.
You're already pot committed, do the job correctly.
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Thanks. How much labor and how much parts?Originally Posted by DuaneC63
Depending on the labor rate were you live, I was qouted $5,000 in Cali.
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Was this fixed on the newer model years?
Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
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Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
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Was this fixed on the newer model years?Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
There is tons of parts on the car that have been replaced with revised versions.
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Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
Makes sense. Any idea how we can organize and take MB to the mat?Originally Posted by 2012C63AMG
Was this fixed on the newer model years?Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
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How many of those were minor changes and how many were due to the possibility of a catastrophic failure because of defective parts?Originally Posted by Merc63
There is tons of parts on the car that have been replaced with revised versions.
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Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
It's by engine number. Stopped sometime mid 2010. There already is a related class action suit going on and MBZ seems to be winning the preliminary rounds at the moment. There are no easy wins in court going up against a corporation of this size.Originally Posted by 2012C63AMG
Was this fixed on the newer model years?Also if Mercedes made a part change to me this admission of a defective original part. To me this should be an easy win for any lawyer in court.. Now on the other hand if Merc replaced defective ones with the same bolts then they could claim its isolated...
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it's not about the size of the corporation. these things happen all the time with every manufacturer out there. every car company has tons of tsbs and campaigns, etc. it's nothing new. tsbs are never covered under warranty after it is expired. campaigns/recalls will have their own time frame, years into the future usually, and it does not matter if the car is under warranty. recalls are reserved for safety issues like sticking pedals, dysfunctional seatbelts, etc. not for headbolts.
it's a stupid lawsuit, the precedent was set decades ago. if you can't afford to fix your car, take the bus or buy a Chevy. or be smart, don't own an amg out of warranty.
it's a stupid lawsuit, the precedent was set decades ago. if you can't afford to fix your car, take the bus or buy a Chevy. or be smart, don't own an amg out of warranty.
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Is there a way to find out if your engine may be affected? ie: a technician looking up your VIN?
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Yup, that's one way. Using the VIN they can get the Engine #, and from that you can determine if it's within the range of affected engines.Originally Posted by LIC63AMG
Is there a way to find out if your engine may be affected? ie: a technician looking up your VIN?
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If anyone wants to know for sure on a U.S. car, respond or PM me your VIN number and I can tell you if it's affected and provide a build sheet (Datacard) on the vehicle.Originally Posted by LIC63AMG
Is there a way to find out if your engine may be affected? ie: a technician looking up your VIN?
If your car is 2009 or earlier, it's in the affected group.
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Yup, I just asked the service tech at my dealership and found out. I'm on the list.
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Thx Grn! you're always quick to reply!Originally Posted by GrnLantern
Yup, that's one way. Using the VIN they can get the Engine #, and from that you can determine if it's within the range of affected engines.
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If your car is 2009 or earlier, it's in the affected group.
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Thanks, Joe. So basically if I have a 2009 or earlier there's no need to even check. It's just depends on whether I'm lucky or not? Originally Posted by Valvestud
If anyone wants to know for sure on a U.S. car, respond or PM me your VIN number and I can tell you if it's affected and provide a build sheet (Datacard) on the vehicle.If your car is 2009 or earlier, it's in the affected group.
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