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Old 04-04-2012, 10:48 PM
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I love both cars, but....why are the M3 owners now commenting that they can beat a stock c63? I mean, whether true or not, you both are modded. What's the point? Is your M3 faster than a Civic? Stock for stock...yes....but if a Civic owner says on the M board "I beat up M3's by 5 car lengths all day long" and not supporting that with their mods, of course you will get the eye rolling responses. There are or were at least some very fast Civics in the VA/MD area walking Z06's...great but that only proves modding changes everything. Again, I like both cars and you can't go wrong with either...let's all get along...lol
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These so called "defensive M3 owners" are not true enthusiasts in my book, but just show-offs. I appreciate a well rounded fixed up civic next to a Maserati next to a stock c63 next to a classic Volvo. It is an awesome thing that we can have different choices of performance cars. Imagine how lame it would be if we only have one type. A person thinking there car is just the best is just stupid. There is always advantages and disadvantages. I use to be all about m3 due to its popularity. But once I got to autocross the c63 at a Mercedes event and realize its daily fun factor after purchasing it, which by the way is what 90% of us do 99% of the time. There's no doubt.
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Originally Posted by them3guy
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You wouldn't take a PP. Sorry. Maybe a stock C63 without an LSD off a light and thats about it. Unless you were supercharged I can't believe it.
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maybe a pre 2012 c63. otherwise i wouldnt believe it without proof.

new c63's have tested 0-60 3.7 sec. thats almost a full second faster than the m3
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You wouldn't take a PP. Sorry. Maybe a stock C63 without an LSD off a light and thats about it. Unless you were supercharged I can't believe it.
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maybe a pre 2012 c63. otherwise i wouldnt believe it without proof.

new c63's have tested 0-60 3.7 sec. thats almost a full second faster than the m3
I wouldn't worry about it guys. Those new "M3" posters just came to this thread to troll.

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Next thing you know they will be talking about taking a black series!
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US troll?, this is an AMG forum...



by definition, wouldnt he be the one trolling?
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US troll?, this is an AMG forum...



by definition, wouldnt he be the one trolling?
No, no... I meant the other guys, not you. I will reword
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maybe a pre 2012 c63. otherwise i wouldnt believe it without proof.

new c63's have tested 0-60 3.7 sec. thats almost a full second faster than the m3

ill hit up my friend who has one and do some runs and then you can believe it

m3 is from 08 still and c63 just got updated....wait until the next gen m3 and then try saying anything

new m5 > new cls 63..
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Originally Posted by them3guy
ill hit up my friend who has one and do some runs and then you can believe it

m3 is from 08 still and c63 just got updated....wait until the next gen m3 and then try saying anything

new m5 > new cls 63..

"c63 just got updated" , what do you mean? what year c63 you talking about.? if its a 2011, 10, or 09 maybe, but a 2012, you wont touch it with an m3.

new cls 63 > new m5.

new cls 63 modded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new m5 modded.
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Originally Posted by mainly
"c63 just got updated" , what do you mean? what year c63 you talking about.? if its a 2011, 10, or 09 maybe, but a 2012, you wont touch it with an m3.

new cls 63 > new m5.

new cls 63 modded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new m5 modded.
there arent mods for the new m5 except for one or two tuning companies and their tunes are not aggressive at all and yield ~600 rwhp. give it 6 months then you can talk

and im talking about the performance power kit buddy
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Originally Posted by them3guy
ill hit up my friend who has one and do some runs and then you can believe it

m3 is from 08 still and c63 just got updated....wait until the next gen m3 and then try saying anything

new m5 > new cls 63..
Ok since we live in today with the cars as is. thats fine. AMG has a MUCH more powerful engine it can put into its 2014 C63. So in fact lets wait until the next generation of cars and see. The 2012 is just an update.. its not a new model. All they did really was change the interior and add a new transmission (which makes a big difference).
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
Ok since we live in today with the cars as is. thats fine. AMG has a MUCH more powerful engine it can put into its 2014 C63. So in fact lets wait until the next generation of cars and see. The 2012 is just an update.. its not a new model. All they did really was change the interior and add a new transmission (which makes a big difference).

the thing with M is that for some reason, they dont like throwing in hundreds of more horsepower in the new gen cars. sadly, the next m3 is probably going to have around 500 hp and when amg throws in this biturbo engine in the next c63, itll 'destroy' it. something about M cars cant be compared with AMGs though. from the buttons that determine shift speed to throttle response to the differential and overall driving feel...unlike an amg where you can just floor it and be the worst driver imaginable and get a sub 12 1/4 mile time, with Ms you need to feel the engine response and actually need to know what youre doing
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the thing with M is that for some reason, they dont like throwing in hundreds of more horsepower in the new gen cars. sadly, the next m3 is probably going to have around 500 hp and when amg throws in this biturbo engine in the next c63, itll 'destroy' it. something about M cars cant be compared with AMGs though. from the buttons that determine shift speed to throttle response to the differential and overall driving feel...unlike an amg where you can just floor it and be the worst driver imaginable and get a sub 12 1/4 mile time, with Ms you need to feel the engine response and actually need to know what youre doing
Track your car one day and then track a C63 (if someone will even let you) and you'll see how much more you need to know what you're doing! Go away dude... you're trying to justify an M3 to car nuts who already know a lot about both cars since we all strongly considered each model.
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
Track your car one day and then track a C63 (if someone will even let you) and you'll see how much more you need to know what you're doing! Go away dude... you're trying to justify an M3 to car nuts who already know a lot about both cars since we all strongly considered each model.
whats better about c63s then? mr car nut?
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whats better about c63s then? mr car nut?
Do you mean why I chose my car over an M3 or even the C63 coupe? Hmm maybe because it fit the driving I like to do.

ps. Just go away.
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Originally Posted by VaclavSV
Do you mean why I chose my car over an M3 or even the C63 coupe? Hmm maybe because it fit the driving I like to do.

ps. Just go away.
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I feel like the trolls and fanboys have AMGs. All I am trying to say is that stock M handles better than AMG. and my modded M3 is just as fast as PP 2012 Stock c63.
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its ironic how the amg drivers are the defensive ones
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I feel like the trolls and fanboys have AMGs. All I am trying to say is that stock M handles better than AMG. and my modded M3 is just as fast as PP 2012 Stock c63.
Videos? Very interested!


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its ironic how the amg drivers are the defensive ones
Simply because it's usually the M owners that instigate it all to begin with.
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Did u m3 fan boys check nurburging times lately?
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Go to fastestlaps dot com and see for yourself
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Go to fastestlaps dot com and see for yourself
I don't see any correlations among tracks. M3 Competition Package and C63 PP Coupe.
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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-
I was given multiple infractions for 'trolling'.
Gee, I wonder why...
Once again (I am NOT defending ANYONE), this thread serves absolutely NO purpose except being an intentional "troll bait" (which, in itself, is also a way of trolling).


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