How Many C63 Black Series Shipping to U.S.
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That's not really messed up. It's the Aero pack cars that didn't get the track pack (diff cooler). That makes no sense.
On the bright side, based on our window stickers, I don't believe the track pack's diff cooler was installed in Germany, rather, installed at the VPC once it cleared customs. Which means anyone who didn't order the B25 track pack should be able to have the diff cooler retrofitted.
Originally, Canada was only supposed to get 10 cars (like the SL65 black series), but MB Canada was able to convince HQ to give us 20 more cars around Sept 2011. Speaking with a couple of AMG folks, the reasoning is that Canada is AMG's biggest market per capita by a huge margin, and as such, we were rewarded more cars for the C63 BS.
On the bright side, based on our window stickers, I don't believe the track pack's diff cooler was installed in Germany, rather, installed at the VPC once it cleared customs. Which means anyone who didn't order the B25 track pack should be able to have the diff cooler retrofitted.
Originally, Canada was only supposed to get 10 cars (like the SL65 black series), but MB Canada was able to convince HQ to give us 20 more cars around Sept 2011. Speaking with a couple of AMG folks, the reasoning is that Canada is AMG's biggest market per capita by a huge margin, and as such, we were rewarded more cars for the C63 BS.
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If that was the case, Canada should've only gotten 5 cars. Fact is, our market was rewarded solely for the # sold per capita, even though SoCal sells 80% of all AMGs.
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Glad you are enjoying yours and I look forward to a more comprehensive writeup on it's performance - hopefully on a roadcourse whre it belongs.
I'm still toying with the idea of getting one but I feel it overlaps too much with my CLK BS and if Weistec can get the throttle blip to happen I'll never sell it cause that's all it's missing. I'll be interested to hear how the C BS rear end holds up in the track. I know my rear dif cooler is humming like crazy after a long session on the track.
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Ahh sorry missed that.
It'll be a while before I get it out on a proper track. We lost ours last fall (closed down to expand the waste treatment plant... grrr) but I have been able to get more impressions by driving quite hard elsewhere...
Low speed turn-in was my favorite handling trait on the CLK63 BS, and now that I've been able to get some decent temps into the tire, the C63 BS lost that edge. It's not that it's any slower, just feels like it need more steering angle, so it lost a little bit of that razor edge feel at low speeds, and only low speeds (ie 2nd gear corners). Anything faster, the sharpness comes right back. Really strange.
I can't trail brake as deep as the CLK BS anymore, the rear end wants to come around a lot more under heavy trail braking. On the bright side, I'm definately getting more speed through the corners, so it's more adjusting my driving style, off the brakes earlier on turn in and back on the throttle, balancing the car slightly sideways. If you watch the Top Gear lap on the C63 BS, even for high speed corners the tail swings out under trail braking, and the Stig seems to do the same thing to keep speeds up. This is apparent at any speed, feels kinda sketch when it's happening at 70mph lol. Don't even want to know what happens at higher speeds unless it's on a track.
ESP Sport/Handling mode or whatever is amazing. It lets you have decent slip angles, but not enough to melt tires in 4 laps Clarkson style (that needs ESP off) and if anything, helps you find the fastest speeds around the corner. The AMG Performance Media option is wicked too, I've been able to pull steady 1.1g's and there's room for more if I can get the tires hot enough. Again, need track to do that. It's nice to see how you're "performing" in day to day drives, or on the track. In summary, wouldn't think twice about upgrading from the CLK BS to the C BS. Its a lot more car, and yes, I miss the pillarless all 4 windows down feeling of the CLK, but it's insignificant compared to all the upgrades. Even if the CLK can get throttle blipping, I'd still prefer the C.
I think I've derailed this thread enough, maybe have to find a new thread to talk more about it.
It'll be a while before I get it out on a proper track. We lost ours last fall (closed down to expand the waste treatment plant... grrr) but I have been able to get more impressions by driving quite hard elsewhere...
Low speed turn-in was my favorite handling trait on the CLK63 BS, and now that I've been able to get some decent temps into the tire, the C63 BS lost that edge. It's not that it's any slower, just feels like it need more steering angle, so it lost a little bit of that razor edge feel at low speeds, and only low speeds (ie 2nd gear corners). Anything faster, the sharpness comes right back. Really strange.
I can't trail brake as deep as the CLK BS anymore, the rear end wants to come around a lot more under heavy trail braking. On the bright side, I'm definately getting more speed through the corners, so it's more adjusting my driving style, off the brakes earlier on turn in and back on the throttle, balancing the car slightly sideways. If you watch the Top Gear lap on the C63 BS, even for high speed corners the tail swings out under trail braking, and the Stig seems to do the same thing to keep speeds up. This is apparent at any speed, feels kinda sketch when it's happening at 70mph lol. Don't even want to know what happens at higher speeds unless it's on a track.
ESP Sport/Handling mode or whatever is amazing. It lets you have decent slip angles, but not enough to melt tires in 4 laps Clarkson style (that needs ESP off) and if anything, helps you find the fastest speeds around the corner. The AMG Performance Media option is wicked too, I've been able to pull steady 1.1g's and there's room for more if I can get the tires hot enough. Again, need track to do that. It's nice to see how you're "performing" in day to day drives, or on the track. In summary, wouldn't think twice about upgrading from the CLK BS to the C BS. Its a lot more car, and yes, I miss the pillarless all 4 windows down feeling of the CLK, but it's insignificant compared to all the upgrades. Even if the CLK can get throttle blipping, I'd still prefer the C.
I think I've derailed this thread enough, maybe have to find a new thread to talk more about it.
Last edited by rage2; 04-29-2012 at 02:30 AM.
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Why should MB give a crap about per capita sales, all they should care about is absolute sales. Sounds like BS marketing speak to me.
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Please post pictures. There doesn't appear to be many BS's on this coast. It took about 30 days for my car to be delivered from the completion date in Germany.
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Looks insane on the road? I was on the phone with Fletcher Jones Parts guy and he said they just sold a black one with the Aero kit. Guess that's it.
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so are all BS spoken for?
I found one on cars.com
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
new listed by dealer. black with aero pack
I found one on cars.com
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
new listed by dealer. black with aero pack
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Thanks for the post. I am very confused. I thought that rear seats were not available for cars with the aero package. The car listed on Cars.com clearly shows both!!
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that car looks sweet...i wish i could pick it up lol
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2011 GMC Denali, 2012 F250, 2001 Lowrider & 2011 Roadglide ultra HD, 2013 SLK55 AMG, 2013 C63 BS
I just bought a 2013 C63 Black Series three weeks a go in Houston, is 75 the number for 2013 and how many for 2012.
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2013 C63 Black Series
Congrats on your car
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There were exactly 26 2013's for the US. 100% confirmed via Netstar.
I believe it was 74 2012's, but I do not have visual confirmation of this, unfortunately.
I believe it was 74 2012's, but I do not have visual confirmation of this, unfortunately.
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Seems like its Black Series week at BaT.
There is also a CLK63BS and an SL65BS Renntech on there.
Stuff is just pulling monster dough these days so timing is good.
There is also a CLK63BS and an SL65BS Renntech on there.
Stuff is just pulling monster dough these days so timing is good.
#49
The monster dough is why these cars are cropping up and sellers cashing in. Sellers are striking while the iron is (still) hot.
#50
I think I may of bought your car. Black C63 BS from Fletcher Jones with aero pack. Its still in beautiful shape.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1495415561
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1495415561