Jerry when you do officially launch this product, can you address this? I also would think that if something happened to the motor and you flashed to stock a dealer would be able to see particular parameters (engine speed, throttle %, etc) that is stored, wouldnt they?

I know you answered this with "100%" but Im curious to know some more details there, guessing many others who will buy ultimately would want to know too.

 

Not really 100% on this. Maybe a tuner can clarify if a flash clears the codes.

 

I had heard May 15 availability, sounds like it is very close to release. This product is going to be a game changer, very much looking forward to getting it!

 

Hi Jerry, does this device work on non US market C63 as well? If it does, I'm very interested. Thanks

 

The flash does not clear the codes.

The programmer works on all 63's, no matter the market.

 

hey guys, new thread posted with all the info about the device.

 

Thought as much...

 

has that been verified? if so thats huge

so really, with a tune that doesnt change the rev limiter, its significantly harder to detect if not completely transparent since the ecu will never record that it exceeded factory rev limitations

 

With the Falcons here in Australia, the dealers could still tell. They had to be looking for it though. I'm thinking there are tell-tale signs that would suggest that parameters have been changed.

 

but only if they hadnt been changed back to stock parameters before service, right?

 

This is what I'd like to know also. It's my understanding that the ECU stores certain values - throttle %, RPM's, speed, etc. If you flash back to stock, all the "settings" may go back to stock, but doesnt the ECU still keep these values, so that when a manufacturers rep comes in and really digs deep into the ECU, wont they find that? "Sir, I see here clearly that throttle % has gone well over 100% - how did that happen?" type thing. You guys are way more knowledgeable than me - can you address?

 

no, apparently they could tell either way! The tuners would say there's no way they could tell, Ford would say they could tell. Mind you, on all the forums I never had an instance where someone was caught out.

 

Exactly, that's what I think the dealers could see. I mean the ECU data logs everything, so if in the last 24hrs before the incident you've had 130% throttle or something, they'll know something's up! They have to go looking though. That's the tricky bit. if you present them with a COMPLETELY stock car, that doesn't look like a bolt has ever been touched, then I doubt they'll look. However if you give them something that's lowered with rims, carbon bits hanging off everywhere etc, they would have a reason to look...

 

Use the tool for that it is. A great way to flash on your own without cracking open the ECU.

Dont think you are fooling the dealers though. They will know its been tuned. Just the time stamp on the file when the flash was loaded would be an indicator. I am no expert in ECU tuning but I know systems and there is always a trail.

 

Newbie here with a 2012 C63AMG Sedan...LOVE the car! I am going to buy the EC handheld programmer and the EC V4 tune...Also found out from Jerry that the V4 tune is stable and will be publicly available this Monday next week!

As per Jerry, faster/ smoother shifts, higher shift times! No dyno chart just yet but on the way!

 

this is exactly what I have been looking for, where in South Africa can I take my car?