I beat it!
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I recognize those notes! Congrats on beating it. Having used CA's written declaration many times, I offer congrats. Well done. On the response, it will give a reason why you won - did the officer not respond? That's almost exclusively been the case in my experience.
Sorry to hear about the change in employment status. Something will work out and at the very worst, as you've mentioned, you have an alternative in school. Clearly a good head on those shoulders.
C63edition: find out if your state allows written declarations and what the rules are. Then do it. This process is very very simple. Put in the time rather than making someone else do it for you (unpaid).
--Dan
PS: Not sure if you meant to be self-deprecating or not, but if you weren't, I wouldn't use the word 'verbiage.'
Sorry to hear about the change in employment status. Something will work out and at the very worst, as you've mentioned, you have an alternative in school. Clearly a good head on those shoulders.
C63edition: find out if your state allows written declarations and what the rules are. Then do it. This process is very very simple. Put in the time rather than making someone else do it for you (unpaid).
--Dan
PS: Not sure if you meant to be self-deprecating or not, but if you weren't, I wouldn't use the word 'verbiage.'
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I edited the personal bits out, of course, but what really made my case was my layoff. I had dated documentation that I photocopied and send in along with my declaration below. I was expecting to have to do traffic school, but I guess the person in charge of my case/citation was feeling compassionate.
Congrats tho
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Verbiage means that you're bloviating - basically that you're writing long-winded and unnecessarily convoluted or technical or both. A negative connotation. Your letter was generally succinct, as you rightly indicated.
Did the officer respond or was it a default judgment based on non-response?
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Did the officer respond or was it a default judgment based on non-response?
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Between stacking the deck in your favor with respect to the possible argument and also doing as much as you can to ensure the officer doesn't respond, you'll win. Most of them (and I mean >90%) of the ones I've done or helped with have been won on summary judgment based on a lack of response. In CA, even if you lose the written trial, you have the right to a Trial De Novo. It's literally a free second chance. So why not try this every time and see if it works?
--Dan
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And at the same time you probably won't make any friends in law enforcement..
I am pretty sure I pissed off every cop and local politician in my county after I ripped through the officers evidence on a traffic camera offense (they still send a LEO instead of the camera operator to court).
Rule number 1 of any digital device.. time stamps are the most important and must be accurate (the camera marked the ticket as 1130 am, I went through that stretch of road at 730). While the photo and speed were accurate, the time was off invalidating any evidence, my ticket, and every other ticket from that particular camera was invalidated (at least for those who contested it) between the last maintenance, and I am guessing the day after I went to court when they sent someone to fix it.
Police officer vs IT Security and Forensic specialist and consultant...
I usually win these cases.. not so much when I get pulled over though.
I am pretty sure I pissed off every cop and local politician in my county after I ripped through the officers evidence on a traffic camera offense (they still send a LEO instead of the camera operator to court).
Rule number 1 of any digital device.. time stamps are the most important and must be accurate (the camera marked the ticket as 1130 am, I went through that stretch of road at 730). While the photo and speed were accurate, the time was off invalidating any evidence, my ticket, and every other ticket from that particular camera was invalidated (at least for those who contested it) between the last maintenance, and I am guessing the day after I went to court when they sent someone to fix it.
Police officer vs IT Security and Forensic specialist and consultant...
I usually win these cases.. not so much when I get pulled over though.
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Verbiage means that you're bloviating - basically that you're writing long-winded and unnecessarily convoluted or technical or both. A negative connotation. Your letter was generally succinct, as you rightly indicated.
Did the officer respond or was it a default judgment based on non-response?
--Dan
Did the officer respond or was it a default judgment based on non-response?
--Dan
And at the same time you probably won't make any friends in law enforcement..
I am pretty sure I pissed off every cop and local politician in my county after I ripped through the officers evidence on a traffic camera offense (they still send a LEO instead of the camera operator to court).
Rule number 1 of any digital device.. time stamps are the most important and must be accurate (the camera marked the ticket as 1130 am, I went through that stretch of road at 730). While the photo and speed were accurate, the time was off invalidating any evidence, my ticket, and every other ticket from that particular camera was invalidated (at least for those who contested it) between the last maintenance, and I am guessing the day after I went to court when they sent someone to fix it.
Police officer vs IT Security and Forensic specialist and consultant...
I usually win these cases.. not so much when I get pulled over though.
I am pretty sure I pissed off every cop and local politician in my county after I ripped through the officers evidence on a traffic camera offense (they still send a LEO instead of the camera operator to court).
Rule number 1 of any digital device.. time stamps are the most important and must be accurate (the camera marked the ticket as 1130 am, I went through that stretch of road at 730). While the photo and speed were accurate, the time was off invalidating any evidence, my ticket, and every other ticket from that particular camera was invalidated (at least for those who contested it) between the last maintenance, and I am guessing the day after I went to court when they sent someone to fix it.
Police officer vs IT Security and Forensic specialist and consultant...
I usually win these cases.. not so much when I get pulled over though.
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^No, sheep like you are the problem with society today. We all have the right to defend ourselves in court, and are assumed innocent till proven guilty, it is one of the god given rights of living in this country called the United States of America. I would rather see someone actively participate and make sure that the different branches of government are following checks and balances then to just see someone roll over and take it. Complacency does nothing but add to the erosion of our already shrinking civil rights. Thumbs up to the OP for fighting the fight.
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Congrats.
Also, you don't really offend Officers when you win in traffic court from experience. As long as your respectful like the officer hopefully is as well. I've also gotten tickets before and just pay them when I was in the wrong.
If someone wants to contest them even if they are guilty then I have no issues with it, but BOOST give me a break and don't call me a sheep please, you definately sound like a true believer lol.
Also, you don't really offend Officers when you win in traffic court from experience. As long as your respectful like the officer hopefully is as well. I've also gotten tickets before and just pay them when I was in the wrong.
If someone wants to contest them even if they are guilty then I have no issues with it, but BOOST give me a break and don't call me a sheep please, you definately sound like a true believer lol.
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Actually, I got pulled a couple of weeks ago for speeding, but I talked the CHP down to a couple of fix-its. In retrospect, I had a suit hanging in the back for an interview and I should've just said I was late for an interview and had been unemployed for a while...maybe he would've let me off altogether. Anyway, one day before hitting the lap pool, I happened upon a couple of Walnut Creek officers. I approached them with my ticket and the guy was like "Oh, here, let me take care of that." No explanation or inspection needed.
So I obviously chatted with them for a bit thanking them for watching over our community - not just lip service. We had a break-in a year ago where some parolee had managed to break into a bunch of storage units in my condo and stole a ton of stuff including ALL of my motorcycle gear. Through an HOA facebook page, one of my neighbors was contacted because his name was on a receipt among stolen goods from his car. He knew most of us and our belongings and called us to retrieve them. So WCPD and SFPD helped recover almost all of the stolen items
So I figure the least I can do is thank them for signing my citation ($50 in the end for no front plate and tinted windows) and for playing their part in recovering probably $4k in moto gear.
So I obviously chatted with them for a bit thanking them for watching over our community - not just lip service. We had a break-in a year ago where some parolee had managed to break into a bunch of storage units in my condo and stole a ton of stuff including ALL of my motorcycle gear. Through an HOA facebook page, one of my neighbors was contacted because his name was on a receipt among stolen goods from his car. He knew most of us and our belongings and called us to retrieve them. So WCPD and SFPD helped recover almost all of the stolen items
So I figure the least I can do is thank them for signing my citation ($50 in the end for no front plate and tinted windows) and for playing their part in recovering probably $4k in moto gear.
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Always nice to hear about a good experience, especially in the bay area.
I think SFPD actually use their own citations now when possible, some people, including possibly a poster on this thread, think a cop writes you a ticket and is supporting the city's budget or something. But I think most of the money actually goes to state coffers (maybe it benefits CHP more then), so the local officer who writes it doesn't really collect a bunch of money for the city.
I think SFPD actually use their own citations now when possible, some people, including possibly a poster on this thread, think a cop writes you a ticket and is supporting the city's budget or something. But I think most of the money actually goes to state coffers (maybe it benefits CHP more then), so the local officer who writes it doesn't really collect a bunch of money for the city.
