NEW 2014 C55/63 AMG - death of the M156
10-16-2012, 08:49 PM
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10-16-2012, 09:34 PM
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The beancounters at MB will probably want to stick the N/A 5.5L in the C63 to make better use of mass production because as it stands, only the SLK55 is making use of it. Like everyone else though, I'd much rather they put the TT5.5L in there as it'd make my next car purchase decision that much easier!
10-16-2012, 09:36 PM
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AMG tuned M278.. bigger, vario-geom turbos and a higher rev limiter
or my pipe-dream M156 with DI, stop start and all that eco stuff to save it from the green people
or my pipe-dream M156 with DI, stop start and all that eco stuff to save it from the green people
10-16-2012, 11:36 PM
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More than 451 HP no doubt but there's no reason to believe they can't achieve such an output with the N/A 5.5L. It's not exactly a high strung motor and neither was the 6.2L it replaces - 427 HP (in the SLK55) out of 5.5L hardly qualifies as earth shattering these days. A tweaked tune from the factory will probably yield another 30 HP easily, if not more.
The beancounters at MB will probably want to stick the N/A 5.5L in the C63 to make better use of mass production because as it stands, only the SLK55 is making use of it. Like everyone else though, I'd much rather they put the TT5.5L in there as it'd make my next car purchase decision that much easier!
The beancounters at MB will probably want to stick the N/A 5.5L in the C63 to make better use of mass production because as it stands, only the SLK55 is making use of it. Like everyone else though, I'd much rather they put the TT5.5L in there as it'd make my next car purchase decision that much easier!
10-16-2012, 11:41 PM
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10-16-2012, 11:52 PM
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10-17-2012, 01:39 AM
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Drove the new SL63, biturbo, let me tell you, it is unreal!
Blows the SLS away IMO. 2 people out of 20 preferred the SLS, while the rest liked the SL63.
The torque, the sound, the seats, everything about it was unreal.
Blows the SLS away IMO. 2 people out of 20 preferred the SLS, while the rest liked the SL63.
The torque, the sound, the seats, everything about it was unreal.
10-17-2012, 01:47 AM
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my wife bananas! :D
who am i kidding, anyone of those two vehicles would look just fine and dandy in my garage lol
10-17-2012, 02:34 AM
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In the middle of a hp/tq race, MBZ is not about to back down. They make give up displacement but the will replace it with forced induction to exceed the prior M156 engine output. It's just bad marketing not to do so. However there is history that this may not work out. A used C43 commands a premium over its more powerful C32 supercharged successor.
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10-17-2012, 05:08 PM
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
So, whatever the engine, when are we likely to see the "New" C63, or rather, when will it be on sale?
Cheers, Pickles.
Cheers, Pickles.
11-11-2012, 02:54 AM
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The 6.3 stay the best motor they've done!
I drive the new SL63 this week and m'y opinion Is that ok, on the highway its better, spécialy for the fuel saving but on the little road wit a lot of turn the 6.3 Is much better!
I drive the new SL63 this week and m'y opinion Is that ok, on the highway its better, spécialy for the fuel saving but on the little road wit a lot of turn the 6.3 Is much better!
Probably a good product anyway. Let's wait and see
01-05-2013, 07:01 AM
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lets look at the history here c36,
got out done by the c43
ditto for c32
ditto for c55
ditto for c63
now lets look at what amg has been doing lately
they built a masterpiece 6.2 that also made it into there entry level cars in a detuned form
they also started a forced induction program for a smaller 5.5 that we now see in the cls and sl which makes more power and is offered with a performance package which boosts pressure from 14 to 18 psi netting 550 horsepower and torque hitting 590 (plus 47 hp and plus 74 lb ft ) on the seven speed transmission
now amg has always built motors that were capable of producing alot of horsepower, but because it has to be a refined, comfortable, reliable, efficient, economical, luxury car that mercedes has always stood for... amg has always gave us a detuned version of it
if you look at the history the only time they gave less motor was from the c43 to the c32 and they added 14 psi now there going from 6.2 to the 5.5 guess what? i betting my lunch money that they going to build one of the most amazing cars ever! and its coming with the whine of turbo chargers...
got out done by the c43
ditto for c32
ditto for c55
ditto for c63
now lets look at what amg has been doing lately
they built a masterpiece 6.2 that also made it into there entry level cars in a detuned form
they also started a forced induction program for a smaller 5.5 that we now see in the cls and sl which makes more power and is offered with a performance package which boosts pressure from 14 to 18 psi netting 550 horsepower and torque hitting 590 (plus 47 hp and plus 74 lb ft ) on the seven speed transmission
now amg has always built motors that were capable of producing alot of horsepower, but because it has to be a refined, comfortable, reliable, efficient, economical, luxury car that mercedes has always stood for... amg has always gave us a detuned version of it
if you look at the history the only time they gave less motor was from the c43 to the c32 and they added 14 psi now there going from 6.2 to the 5.5 guess what? i betting my lunch money that they going to build one of the most amazing cars ever! and its coming with the whine of turbo chargers...
01-05-2013, 09:34 AM
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for the 4.0TT people... do you really think the new C AMG will be beat out by the best factory camaro and mustang in power/performance? if they do, the new C surely will not be in my garage. it makes zero sense from a marketing perspective regardless of all of this green bull****. they would be alienating their customer base which is the antithesis of what AMG performance stands for.
