NEW 2014 C55/63 AMG - death of the M156
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NEW 2014 C55/63 AMG - death of the M156
The high-end version will ditch the current naturally-aspirated 6.3-liter V8 engine in favor of a twin-turbo V8 5.5-liter.
All info in the article:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11210164...-photos-emerge
All info in the article:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11210164...-photos-emerge
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False.
If they are dropping 63 and going to 55.
It's getting the NA 5.5 like the SLK.
Instructor at AMG event said the M157 is two inches wider. To fit it into the C class and make the front two inches larger would drastically change the appearance of the car.
If they are dropping 63 and going to 55.
It's getting the NA 5.5 like the SLK.
Instructor at AMG event said the M157 is two inches wider. To fit it into the C class and make the front two inches larger would drastically change the appearance of the car.
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Perhaps smaller turbos to fit in the confines of the smaller bay?
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It's almost a CERTAINTY that the M156 will be gone and replaced, even in the C63 so you can dream all you want but the next C63 engine will most likely be either the SLK N/A 5.5 or some lower output version of the TT 5.5. I'm leaning towards MB going for a slightly higher output N/A 5.5 but I think ultimately, what they decide to officially release will have to wait until we hear an official release of the new M3 specs. After all, MB doesn't want to be outgunned in the HP department by BMW. That would be blasphemy!
It's almost a CERTAINTY that the M156 will be gone and replaced, even in the C63 so you can dream all you want but the next C63 engine will most likely be either the SLK N/A 5.5 or some lower output version of the TT 5.5. I'm leaning towards MB going for a slightly higher output N/A 5.5 but I think ultimately, what they decide to officially release will have to wait until we hear an official release of the new M3 specs. After all, MB doesn't want to be outgunned in the HP department by BMW. That would be blasphemy!
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How are we W204 folks suppose to stand out and wear our badges with pride knowing our engines are NA and not turbo-ed!
Sorry, I just prefer NA over TT.
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Yea...I was just lamenting on the fact that it probably will be badged as a C63 (like the E) when it really doesn't have a 6.3L (or 6.202) engine.
How are we W204 folks suppose to stand out and wear our badges with pride knowing our engines are NA and not turbo-ed!
Sorry, I just prefer NA over TT.
How are we W204 folks suppose to stand out and wear our badges with pride knowing our engines are NA and not turbo-ed!
Sorry, I just prefer NA over TT.
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The Biturbo M157 motor will put out more HP/TQ as most force induction motors do. Tune mods will be able to take greater advantage of the turbos. The turbos are intergrated into the exhaust manifolds, so you can forget about headers but it does make the plumbing easier. Moding the turbo will be complicated (ie expensive) due to the integration into the exhaust manifolds. You lose some of the V8 rumble as turbos tend to smooth out exhaust noise. I hope they let you turn off the engine automatic stop/start feature on AMG's.
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my theory is that they've stuck with the "63's", because it gives them some continuity like m3's and m5's are m3's and m5's every year and every model.
personally, i would prefer if they'd just badge them to coorelate with the engine size. not a huge deal if we were to go back to c55's.
personally, i would prefer if they'd just badge them to coorelate with the engine size. not a huge deal if we were to go back to c55's.
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it will be some version of the m157, probably with smaller turbos located differently. MB will not create a new engine for one car, that's crazy. The n/a 5.5 in the SLK is possible, but I think it will be underpowered for our chassis. My bet is on a detuned m157!
BTW start/stop (eco) function is already available on some AMG cars and it can be shut off with the push of a button
BTW start/stop (eco) function is already available on some AMG cars and it can be shut off with the push of a button
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Who knows what the spec will be at the moment?....it's simply speculation.
The only "vague" thing I can say is that going on previous models, the C63 engine is not as powerful as some of the larger cars?
My "thoughts" at this stage would be a N.A. 5.5L, or the 4.7L TT?....but I really have NO idea.
Cheers, Pickles.
The only "vague" thing I can say is that going on previous models, the C63 engine is not as powerful as some of the larger cars?
My "thoughts" at this stage would be a N.A. 5.5L, or the 4.7L TT?....but I really have NO idea.
Cheers, Pickles.
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I'm assuming the turbo/manifold design is getting in the way?
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The Biturbo M157 motor will put out more HP/TQ as most force induction motors do. Tune mods will be able to take greater advantage of the turbos. The turbos are intergrated into the exhaust manifolds, so you can forget about headers but it does make the plumbing easier. Moding the turbo will be complicated (ie expensive) due to the integration into the exhaust manifolds. You lose some of the V8 rumble as turbos tend to smooth out exhaust noise. I hope they let you turn off the engine automatic stop/start feature on AMG's.
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I'm 99% sure there's no way they'd replace the M156 engine with the M152 engine (SLK55 NA V8). The NA 5.5L V8 can't come even close to putting out the same hp/t figures as the NA 6.2L V8 that it'd replace. AMG, M, Porsche, etc., these guys are always one-upping each other and one-upping themselves when models are refreshed.
If they kill the M156 after MY2013, it's got to be the M157 engine (likely de-tuned, as they've done with M156 in C63 vs E63/CLS63).
If they kill the M156 after MY2013, it's got to be the M157 engine (likely de-tuned, as they've done with M156 in C63 vs E63/CLS63).
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That may happen but rear seat room is also dictated by marketing. Too much legroom in a C class translates to fewer E class sales and forgone profits. Our seatbacks are so thick...putting Recaros in would surely yield a few extra inches of legroom for the rear passenger.
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I'm 99% sure there's no way they'd replace the M156 engine with the M152 engine (SLK55 NA V8). The NA 5.5L V8 can't come even close to putting out the same hp/t figures as the NA 6.2L V8 that it'd replace. AMG, M, Porsche, etc., these guys are always one-upping each other and one-upping themselves when models are refreshed.
If they kill the M156 after MY2013, it's got to be the M157 engine (likely de-tuned, as they've done with M156 in C63 vs E63/CLS63).
If they kill the M156 after MY2013, it's got to be the M157 engine (likely de-tuned, as they've done with M156 in C63 vs E63/CLS63).
be more powerful than the new m3 regardless of which engine they end up going with
