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Old 06-30-2013, 11:35 AM
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Both gearbox and MCT clutch are upgraded by GAD to withstand upto 1400NM of torque, this is a must so that you decrease possibilities of clutch slipping. Internals of all AMG cars are forged M157 and even M156 have forged rods, pistons and crank to my knowledge
I really like their approach, not only the power and torque is upped but also they have worked on the gearbox to make this work together, hopefully trouble free!

I could not find anything about that gearbox mods on their website. Are these mods offered to the crowd in general, or are these one-off?
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Also.... I am incredibly impressed w the level of trust you have w GAD. That and the result speak more than words can. Longevity is to be determined but It certainly appears to have been well placed thus far
The durability of the parts have been tested by them on the companies CLS63 and so far with RS consecutive times tested plus taken to speeds of 330km for along period of time multiple times, the car has held on very well, this given the C63BS is lighter so less stress will be there on those parts, I hope I will not need to open her up unless they offer more power


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I really like their approach, not only the power and torque is upped but also they have worked on the gearbox to make this work together, hopefully trouble free!

I could not find anything about that gearbox mods on their website. Are these mods offered to the crowd in general, or are these one-off?
They are offered to the crowd, as I understand those guys have no time to scratch there heads, that's why there website haven't been updated.
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So... you probably have the two quickest C's in the world

Go home Jrcart .. lol

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this is an upgraded 850hp GAD upgraded engine dont need to do anything more to it
What is this 850HP at the whp then?
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So... you probably have the two quickest C's in the world

Go home Jrcart .. lol
I think Jrcart cars are monsters and I don't know if my cars would be the quickest in the world I know I have monstrous torque and all wheel drive will make sure I lay that power on the ground let them finish her up and we will see what's going to happen.
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Originally Posted by tooFATtoDRIVE
What is this 850HP at the whp then?
This is at the crank
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Originally Posted by dbasons55
I think Jrcart cars are monsters and I don't know if my cars would be the quickest in the world I know I have monstrous torque and all wheel drive will make sure I lay that power on the ground let them finish her up and we will see what's going to happen.
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My respect to you.
That is very well said, cordial and professional.
I love both cars, I think you, and jcart have a wonder full cars.
There is no need to get in to a pissing match.
We all benefit from guys modifying there cars in different ways.

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My respect to you.
That is very well said, cordial and professional.
I love both cars, I think you, and jcart have a wonder full cars.
There is no need to get in to a pissing match.
We all benefit from guys modifying there cars in different ways.
JV I love AMG's and I just can't have one that is not pushed to the limit its a bit crazy but at the same time it's worth it in my book and I am sure jrcart has the same passion running in his blood
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Originally Posted by dbasons55
JV I love AMG's and I just can't have one that is not pushed to the limit its a bit crazy but at the same time it's worth it in my book and I am sure jrcart has the same passion running in his blood
I completely understand and I share your passion, can't wait to see more videos of your car.
Can't wait to get stuff done to my car.
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Saw the video on youtube not too long ago.

Absolutely ***** to the wall! Can't wait to see her terrorize the streets!
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My respect to you, too! And thanks for sharing with us!
Can't wait to see the result on the track!
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Thanks everyone for the great responds this makes it worth a while and as soon as she is ready to rip I will defenatily share some footage and impression of the drivability of the car. I really give the guys at GAD thumbs up on this, its just unheard off that an after market tuner company in rebuilding a RWD car and making it an AWD just pure talent and dedication
AWD C63 is going to be epic.
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
So... you probably have the two quickest C's in the world

Go home Jrcart .. lol
My C BS was built for road racing 670 whp is all I need. Neither car in this thread will touch my CLK in a straight line AWD or not.
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Have you had the chance to drive your CLK in a whole mile event or from 200-300 KM/H? The results would be very interesting.

Talked with Mo's Tuner GAD, and the BIG-Turbos from his Bullit with approx.900 HP at the crank are far away from being maxed out at the moment. There is still a lot on the table, if there is a real need to make it a 1000HP car.

Without doubt, Mo's car has it also in it in my opinion.

Bad *** cars...
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@jcart

Have you had the chance to drive your CLK in a whole mile event or from 200-300 KM/H? The results would be very interesting.

Talked with Mo's Tuner GAD, and the BIG-Turbos from his Bullit with approx.900 HP at the crank are far away from being maxed out at the moment. There is still a lot on the table, if there is a real need to make it a 1000HP car.

Without doubt, Mo's car has it also in it in my opinion.

Bad *** cars...
Not any 1 mile event just 1/2 miles for the CLK up until this point. I am running the Michigan Mile this weekend but only running it in my C BS because they do not allow DR's or skinnies at this event and I don't have time to fit a set of wheels and tires on the CLK.
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Ah, o.k.

Good Luck for your run!

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Do you know whether there has been a need to upgrade the cooling and fueling system components of the M157 engine in your car?

I know that Weistec uses an ice-box to achieve 850HP in their E63, whereas AMG does not mention any cooling updates in their 850HP E63. Neither tuner mentions updates to the fueling system.
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Originally Posted by dbasons55
Both gearbox and MCT clutch are upgraded by GAD to withstand upto 1400NM of torque, this is a must so that you decrease possibilities of clutch slipping. Internals of all AMG cars are forged M157 and even M156 have forged rods, pistons and crank to my knowledge
All M157 internals are forged but only M156's with the P31 package come with forged internals. All M159's have forged internals.
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Originally Posted by tooFATtoDRIVE
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Do you know whether there has been a need to upgrade the cooling and fueling system components of the M157 engine in your car?

I know that Weistec uses an ice-box to achieve 850HP in their E63, whereas AMG does not mention any cooling updates in their 850HP E63. Neither tuner mentions updates to the fueling system.
yes the cooling has been revised for this car, a water tank is an option people do i am not a fan of it so i dont use this option i try to use practical cooling options like bigger radiators.

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All M157 internals are forged but only M156's with the P31 package come with forged internals. All M159's have forged internals.
thats possible but when i had the tour at the AMG facility i am sure i have asked about the connecting rods and they have confirmed that they only use forged for there internals that includs M156 and yes the M159 have stonger internals and differnt pistons
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yes the cooling has been revised for this car, a water tank is an option people do i am not a fan of it so i dont use this option i try to use practical cooling options like bigger radiators.



thats possible but when i had the tour at the AMG facility i am sure i have asked about the connecting rods and they have confirmed that they only use forged for there internals that includs M156 and yes the M159 have stonger internals and differnt pistons
Yup even non p31 M156 have forged connecting rods and crank ! Only the pistons are not forged in the non P31 M156 and i believe JRcart was running 700+ whp on the non forged pistons for a while before he upgraded to weistec built internals and they handled that power fine. And we know he runs his cars hard
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Originally Posted by dbasons55
Both gearbox and MCT clutch are upgraded by GAD to withstand upto 1400NM of torque, this is a must so that you decrease possibilities of clutch slipping. Internals of all AMG cars are forged M157 and even M156 have forged rods, pistons and crank to my knowledge
There is this interesting discussion on b.e.n.z.b.o.o.s.t (replace stars in the web address without dots) regarding the comparison of turbo upgrades for M157 engine done by AMS, RT and Weistec: http://www.*********.com/showthread....-Turbo-upgrade

Do you know what upgrades were made by GAD in your car?

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Originally Posted by tooFATtoDRIVE
There is this interesting discussion on b.e.n.z.b.o.o.s.t (replace stars in the web address without dots) regarding the comparison of turbo upgrades for M157 engine done by AMS, RT and Weistec: http://www.*********.com/showthread....-Turbo-upgrade

Do you know what upgrades were made by GAD in your car?
Here is a link of the first turbo upgrade done to the M157 engine by GAD to my car, as you can see on one of the pictures I have shared that the turbos are modified and are fitted with dual ball bearing housing it's clear to me who is a head in this game I have had my turbo upgraded since April 2012 and they are running fine

https://mbworld.org/forums/w218/4376...-upgrades.html
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Here is a link of the first turbo upgrade done to the M157 engine by GAD to my car, as you can see on one of the pictures I have shared that the turbos are modified and are fitted with dual ball bearing housing it's clear to me who is a head in this game I have had my turbo upgraded since April 2012 and they are running fine

https://mbworld.org/forums/w218/4376...-upgrades.html
Correct me if I am wrong, please. Is Digi-tec Performance Center (Dubai) some sort of distributor of GAD (Germany) products/upgrades?
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Originally Posted by tooFATtoDRIVE
Correct me if I am wrong, please. Is Digi-tec Performance Center (Dubai) some sort of distributor of GAD (Germany) products/upgrades?
Yes they are there dealer in Dubai
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