First time in the snow
12-02-2012, 04:31 PM
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Perhaps in the real north (Canada) people are more forgiving of corrosion due to the conditions. I retrieved a car ( not C 63) from Chicago that saw 3 winters and will never do it again. The car should be driven, that's for sure. Actually the road salt is less of a risk than hard (track days) or drag racing to the wellness of a used car. I probably would not buy a used C63. We do not salt the roads in WA and Portland is just starting it. What do the Germans do?
12-03-2012, 12:29 AM
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I'm of the same mind. Washing frequently is the best remedy. I buy the petro Canada 90 day car wash pass and wash my cars 3-4 times a week.
12-03-2012, 01:42 AM
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A full wash is not even necessary. As long as you hose it down well and frequently, it will be fine. The major concentration will be the undercarriage and the wheels and wheel wells along with all the crevices where the sheetmetals meet. Having a good hose head attachment and own driveway will be easy. I have both and I also have water softner so little water residual is left.
12-05-2012, 02:21 AM
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Nope, that's my summer car.
Well said. ESP Sport is the minimum for winter driving in the C63. Too much intervention with ESP on. Winter tires are a must. Studded tires will feel like driving in the rain.
That's always been the myth. I swap cars on an average of once or twice a year, so I've had a lot of experience in the used market. Thing is, selling a car in ANY area with winter roads, salt, etc. and you'll have a lower resale value because it's assumed that it's winter driven. You can plaster your ads with never winter driven, and it won't make a difference, you're not going to get any more money selling a car that gets parked in the winter. If anything, you'll get more money selling a car with an extra set of winter wheels and tires.
Of course, if you don't maintain your car, it's going to look like crap. Wash your car weekly, detail it after winter, and it'll be no different than a car that's not winter driven.
Well said. ESP Sport is the minimum for winter driving in the C63. Too much intervention with ESP on. Winter tires are a must. Studded tires will feel like driving in the rain.
That's always been the myth. I swap cars on an average of once or twice a year, so I've had a lot of experience in the used market. Thing is, selling a car in ANY area with winter roads, salt, etc. and you'll have a lower resale value because it's assumed that it's winter driven. You can plaster your ads with never winter driven, and it won't make a difference, you're not going to get any more money selling a car that gets parked in the winter. If anything, you'll get more money selling a car with an extra set of winter wheels and tires.
Of course, if you don't maintain your car, it's going to look like crap. Wash your car weekly, detail it after winter, and it'll be no different than a car that's not winter driven.
My second C63 is only 2 years old, winter driven and there is tiny rock chips everywhere. The paint is in no where the condition of my new one. Also the head lights have pits all over them.
Id pay more for a car that wasn't winter driven. The salt, the cold, the rocks and sand, it gives a car a beating.
My partner has a C63 and just called me, said he was cruising down the freeway with ESP on and cruise control and the back end started fish tailing all over the road at 80+. He says its the worst car hes ever drove in the winter and makes him nervous every time he gets in it. BTW, he has good winter tires on it.
12-05-2012, 09:21 AM
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Well, remember there is warning all over the place about not using cruise control on slick surface, especially wintry road surface.
12-05-2012, 06:16 PM
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I agree with Merc, I would be willing to pay more for a car that has not been winter driven, at least in my area as winter here is pretty harsh.
I respectfully disagree rage. My first C63 bought new, I never drove it in the winter and it looked brand new 3 years later. The paint and headlights were flawless.
My second C63 is only 2 years old, winter driven and there is tiny rock chips everywhere. The paint is in no where the condition of my new one. Also the head lights have pits all over them.
Id pay more for a car that wasn't winter driven. The salt, the cold, the rocks and sand, it gives a car a beating.
My second C63 is only 2 years old, winter driven and there is tiny rock chips everywhere. The paint is in no where the condition of my new one. Also the head lights have pits all over them.
Id pay more for a car that wasn't winter driven. The salt, the cold, the rocks and sand, it gives a car a beating.
12-06-2012, 12:01 AM
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You never really have heard the bark of the AMG engine until its in subzero temperatures I think between -1 to -5 is the butter zone on a cold start while is warming up is glorious 
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12-06-2012, 10:44 AM
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I respectfully disagree rage. My first C63 bought new, I never drove it in the winter and it looked brand new 3 years later. The paint and headlights were flawless.
My second C63 is only 2 years old, winter driven and there is tiny rock chips everywhere. The paint is in no where the condition of my new one. Also the head lights have pits all over them.
My second C63 is only 2 years old, winter driven and there is tiny rock chips everywhere. The paint is in no where the condition of my new one. Also the head lights have pits all over them.
My partner has a C63 and just called me, said he was cruising down the freeway with ESP on and cruise control and the back end started fish tailing all over the road at 80+. He says its the worst car hes ever drove in the winter and makes him nervous every time he gets in it. BTW, he has good winter tires on it.
12-06-2012, 01:34 PM
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I have blizzaks and it has handled well enough the past 2 years, but I wouldn't consider anything about driving this car in the snow fun. It's one reason why I'm looking into trading into an Audi before the NYC winter hits.
12-07-2012, 01:34 PM
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I've never been afraid to drive any of my cars in the winter, and I'm solidly of the mind that a vehicle is meant to be driven.
If you're so focused on what the resale value of your car is, then start shopping for a Camry or Accord. The resale market on ANY C63 is shiite anyway, largely due to the perception that it will have been driven like a hooligan most of it's life.
Enjoy the $85K car, and get your $85K worth out of it. Whatever you get when you go to sell it, is gravy. I could drive my Range Rover in the winter....it's a $114K car (and an even bigger target for stones!)....which is worse? Though the Range Rover (on all-seasons though) is pretty good on slippery roads.
I, for one, had a good time on the way home from work last Friday with all the snow. And given that I've been living in the Cote d'Azur for the past several years, it was my first real winter driving experience for awhile. Fun, actually. And I'll admit it was the braking that took more adjustment, than the power; it stops quite well. And yes, I have proper winter tires on my C63.
It's a depreciating, disposable item. Take good care of it, but let's be realistic....it's not a rare or precious gem by any means. And I've honestly had more paint damage done in the summer as opposed to the winter, largely due to debris falling off trucks in other lanes, stones on the road, etc.
It's a car, and to be brutally honest, not a very exclusive one at that.
And if you live in Calgary.....public transit is apparently not a very competitive options.
Patrick
If you're so focused on what the resale value of your car is, then start shopping for a Camry or Accord. The resale market on ANY C63 is shiite anyway, largely due to the perception that it will have been driven like a hooligan most of it's life.
Enjoy the $85K car, and get your $85K worth out of it. Whatever you get when you go to sell it, is gravy. I could drive my Range Rover in the winter....it's a $114K car (and an even bigger target for stones!)....which is worse? Though the Range Rover (on all-seasons though) is pretty good on slippery roads.
I, for one, had a good time on the way home from work last Friday with all the snow. And given that I've been living in the Cote d'Azur for the past several years, it was my first real winter driving experience for awhile. Fun, actually. And I'll admit it was the braking that took more adjustment, than the power; it stops quite well. And yes, I have proper winter tires on my C63.
It's a depreciating, disposable item. Take good care of it, but let's be realistic....it's not a rare or precious gem by any means. And I've honestly had more paint damage done in the summer as opposed to the winter, largely due to debris falling off trucks in other lanes, stones on the road, etc.
It's a car, and to be brutally honest, not a very exclusive one at that.
And if you live in Calgary.....public transit is apparently not a very competitive options.
Patrick
12-07-2012, 02:37 PM
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I've never been afraid to drive any of my cars in the winter, and I'm solidly of the mind that a vehicle is meant to be driven.
If you're so focused on what the resale value of your car is, then start shopping for a Camry or Accord.
It's a depreciating, disposable item. Take good care of it, but let's be realistic....it's not a rare or precious gem by any means.
It's a car, and to be brutally honest, not a very exclusive one at that.
Patrick
If you're so focused on what the resale value of your car is, then start shopping for a Camry or Accord.
It's a depreciating, disposable item. Take good care of it, but let's be realistic....it's not a rare or precious gem by any means.
It's a car, and to be brutally honest, not a very exclusive one at that.
Patrick
12-07-2012, 09:30 PM
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12-15-2012, 02:23 PM
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They should be driven, but sorry, you cannot rinse away all the salt corrosion. It swirls up into all the openings to the level of the underhood. You would need a lift and 15 minutes of fresh water spray to undo the worst 75% damage. The other 25% would feast. We drive the C63 year round with plastsic covering. No major damage and paint looks new . If they salted I would not drive it winters. (The roads here are not gravel)
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