New C class AMG to get 4.0 V-8
12-26-2012, 12:05 PM
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12-26-2012, 12:07 PM
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"As well as flaunting a new engine, the replacement for the C63 AMG will be the first of the German car maker’s performance saloons to offer the choice of rear- and four-wheel drive in right-hand drive versions."
Having a choice would be great!
Having a choice would be great!
12-26-2012, 03:47 PM
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Although I was hoping for the 5.5 TT in the next C63 this little snippet from the article has my attention.
A 600 horsepower tuned AWD vehicle is going to be tough to beat on the street. Hopefully they can keep the weight down.
Insiders indicate the new unit, which is claimed to deliver over 450bhp in an initial state of tune but is said to be capable of pushing out up to 600bhp
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12-26-2012, 03:56 PM
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(a)'12 C63 P/P, LSD, 19" m/spoke,comfort pack. (b)Astra SRI.
Nothing can be confirmed of course, but "Autocar" is a long standing publication of some repute, so I find the report fairly interesting.
If this report were to be correct, the "new" "C63" with 4L Turbo engine & AWD, would be a totally different beast to the one with which we are familiar.
Cheers, Pickles.
If this report were to be correct, the "new" "C63" with 4L Turbo engine & AWD, would be a totally different beast to the one with which we are familiar.
Cheers, Pickles.
12-26-2012, 04:12 PM
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Hmm, having AWD as an option is actually quite intriguing to me (just as they're doing with the 2014 E63). I like having it as an option. Plus, it'll help me push AMG's onto more of my friends (since they won't be able to give me the silly excuse of "Well, I can't take it to Tahoe, now can I?").
Not sure how I feel about it having a 4.0L engine (even though it will be TT), since, until the turbos spool up, there's no replacement for displacement. But we'll see.
Not sure how I feel about it having a 4.0L engine (even though it will be TT), since, until the turbos spool up, there's no replacement for displacement. But we'll see.
12-26-2012, 04:59 PM
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A 4.0 still being named "63"? This is getting more and more confusing.
Yes, the times are changing; and now the world needs more efficiency. But still, there will be place for the N/A engine.
The SLC looks tasty (looking at the ilustrations). Maybe a lot of guys that own a C63 now will switch for the SLC in the future...
Yes, the times are changing; and now the world needs more efficiency. But still, there will be place for the N/A engine.
The SLC looks tasty (looking at the ilustrations). Maybe a lot of guys that own a C63 now will switch for the SLC in the future...
12-26-2012, 05:07 PM
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I dont see the need to go to a 4.0L when they have an amazing engine which everyone clearly wants to be passed down. The 5.5 TT has been exclusive to the E and above for some time now, and will continue so until late 2014.. So why not give us what we want! Pass down the 5.5 TT and make everyone happy 
12-26-2012, 05:24 PM
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12-26-2012, 05:56 PM
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Of course, big boys with enough cash to be in leagues of cars like Ferrari can still play with NA engines such as the 6.3L V12 in the FF/F12.
12-26-2012, 05:57 PM
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12-26-2012, 07:04 PM
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True. High revving isn't necessarily important if there is enough displacement. The real issue to me is the linear throttle response and how a NA engine feels much more controllable and natural.
12-26-2012, 07:07 PM
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12-26-2012, 07:47 PM
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We're not talking about Supra's and 300 ZXs here
12-26-2012, 08:05 PM
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For daily commute work, there is no doubt a turbo has advantages but, IMO, is less than optimal in certain circumstances. There is something satisfying revving a NA engine to redline and feeling the linear pull all the way there.
But, to your point, the engine technology today is so good the preference for one type of engine to another is a personal thing and in some ways nostalgic. I have yet to drive a turbo that was as satisfying to me as a NA car like the E92 M3 or the C63. Granted, I haven't driven the F10 M5 or the M157 yet... maybe my opinion would change
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12-26-2012, 08:11 PM
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"As well as flaunting a new engine, the replacement for the C63 AMG will be the first of the German car maker’s performance saloons to offer the choice of rear- and four-wheel drive in right-hand drive versions."
Does this mean only british and australian cars are going to have the option to get it in RWD? If that's the case, screw them. AWD is so BORING. BMW here I come then.
Does this mean only british and australian cars are going to have the option to get it in RWD? If that's the case, screw them. AWD is so BORING. BMW here I come then.
12-26-2012, 08:15 PM
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I do appreciate that turbo tech has come a LONG way. The difference is still in power delivery. As a generalization, turbos die off in power towards redline. Power is early on and mid RPM range. This is useful for daily driving. NA engines usually continue to build power to redline. My experience is that at a track, you spend way more time in the upper end of the RPM range where a turbo struggles. Also, although lag is greatly reduced, it is still there to some extent... although minimally.
For daily commute work, there is no doubt a turbo has advantages but, IMO, is less than optimal in certain circumstances. There is something satisfying revving a NA engine to redline and feeling the linear pull all the way there.
But, to your point, the engine technology today is so good the preference for one type of engine to another is a personal thing and in some ways nostalgic. I have yet to drive a turbo that was as satisfying to me as a NA car like the E92 M3 or the C63. Granted, I haven't driven the F10 M5 or the M157 yet... maybe my opinion would change
For daily commute work, there is no doubt a turbo has advantages but, IMO, is less than optimal in certain circumstances. There is something satisfying revving a NA engine to redline and feeling the linear pull all the way there.
But, to your point, the engine technology today is so good the preference for one type of engine to another is a personal thing and in some ways nostalgic. I have yet to drive a turbo that was as satisfying to me as a NA car like the E92 M3 or the C63. Granted, I haven't driven the F10 M5 or the M157 yet... maybe my opinion would change
I think the opportunity to make some huge power gains with just a tune is massively appealing. I hate the fact that we have to spend over $6Grand on new parts just to make some decent power gains
Bring on the blowers!
