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Old 12-29-2012, 05:22 PM
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I will race the gallardo again with race tune but i dont know why some of you dont understand i am running 87 octane ! ! ! it suppose to perform like this ! nothing better !

And i did mix MS 109 with our fuel it was day and night difference i will try to dyno before race gas tune and after .

The biggest question is why are you running 87 octane fuel in a supercharged high compression motor???? Are you insane??? Why don't you fill it up with premium or 91 octane? Don't tell me that there aren't any fuel stations that have 91 octane. If you can't afford the 91 octane then you won't be able to afford a new motor when this one explodes in the near future.

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Apparently your car is being used as a marker for performance in this thread.
But I didn't race a ugr Lamborghini
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The biggest question is why are you running 87 octane fuel in a supercharged high compression motor???? Are you insane??? Why don't you fill it up with premium or 91 octane? Don't tell me that there aren't any fuel stations that have 91 octane. If you can't afford the 91 octane then you won't be able to afford a new motor when this one explodes in the near future.

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We dont have 91 octane
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Originally Posted by alrasheed1991
We dont have 91 octane

Abdullah stop the BS. In Jeddah you guys have 95 RON, which is equivalent to 91 Octane in the USA. How in the world are you bringing the 87 octane number?????
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Abdullah stop the BS. In Jeddah you guys have 95 RON, which is equivalent to 91 Octane in the USA. How in the world are you bringing the 87 octane number?????
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Guys your missing two things our fuel is supposed to be 95 RON and I did a test and turn out 87 ! And and the weather was very very windy and dusty also, I raced a zo6 after the lambo the wind hit as from the sides me and him almost crash like I said I will rematch soon

And about MHP blower tune I am running it for few months with no problem on 87 octane, as the guy from uae running 98 RON there is no compression here for god sake .

And my car dyno 566 rwhp on hot weather thats with mhp blower tune thats before mhp race cat back .

Thanks abdullah
So you're saying the your fuel refining companies are false advertising their fuels?

Saying its 95 RON when really its 87 AKI?

However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "regular", equivalent to 90–91 US AKI=(R+M)/2, and deliver 98, 99 or 100 (RON) (93-94 AKI) labeled as Super Unleaded - thus regular petrol sold in much of Europe corresponds to premium sold in the United States.

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Interesting.

If you are running 87octane with boost on a high comp engine. You are probably causing damage to it. The timing is probably knocked right back, hopefully it can retard enough to lower cylinder pressure.
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Sorry dude, you are deluding yourself. Do you have a custom tune for 87 octane? If not you would be having some major engine knocking.
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So your saying Andy made you a custom tune for 87 octane that works with the Weistec blower?

Smells fishy... unless he had the setup in house I cant see how he could effectively do this. Did you ship him your car?

Also if you have a custom tune made for 87 octane why would you be using fuel addivtives to bring up the octane? Why would you also be blaming the octane you are tuned for as the problem?

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He knocked the timing way back so the car is in safe side
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But I will run 109 from now on car will be for races only
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But I will run 109 from now on car will be for races only

Why? You are tuned for 87 octane. Why bring up the octane if the ECU has been dialed back for the lower octane?

You will gain a very small amount by using MS109 if you are not tuned for it.
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It will be tuned this week I hope after ice tank and meth installed
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But I will run 109 from now on car will be for races only
A C63 that is ONLY used for illegal street races. Wow. Just wow.
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Originally Posted by alrasheed1991
It will be tuned this week I hope after ice tank and meth installed

If what your saying is true and Andy just "Dialed back" the timing without the car being on the dyno to test the results this could indeed be your problem.


I would go directly to Weistec for the tune and stop messing around.
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A C63 that is ONLY used for illegal street races. Wow. Just wow.
They dont have a race track to be fair.


I have a few cars that are only for racing so I can relate.
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They dont have a race track to be fair.


I have a few cars that are only for racing so I can relate.
Just seems unusual to have a car dedicated to street racing. That sounds like death or jail is an inevitability I would completely grt it if there were a track... otherwise it seems crazy to me. Oh well, not my choice
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Just seems unusual to have a car dedicated to street racing. That sounds like death or jail is an inevitability I would completely grt it if there were a track... otherwise it seems crazy to me. Oh well, not my choice
I hear ya. I don't condone street racing. It is a lot of fun though under the right conditions.

Without a local track, like here on Long Island, street racing is quite common.
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How did you test the fuel?? Did you send it out to the lab or did you use your butt dyno?? Either way I find it very hard to believe that in a land of excess with super cars everywhere, there is no true 91 octane. So what you are saying is that all supercars are no running on 87 octane just like the Lambo you raced? I highly doubt it. Those guys would be going through motors like crazy and Ferrai, Lambo, Mercedes, BMW would be pulling out of there because the warranty claims would be astronomical.

I think you have no idea on modding cars and what each componant does. You simply rely on forums and when people tell you how it is, you won't believe them anyways, until someone says something what you want to hear. Like adding meth for example. If you don't tune for it, you will lose power. People think that stuff is like nitrous. No offense but obviously money is no issue to you but money doesn't buy brains...

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How did you test the fuel?? Did you send it out to the lab or did you use your butt dyno?? Either way I find it very hard to believe that in a land of excess with super cars everywhere, there is no true 91 octane. So what you are saying is that all supercars are no running on 87 octane just like the Lambo you raced? I highly doubt it. Those guys would be going through motors like crazy and Ferrai, Lambo, Mercedes, BMW would be pulling out of there because the warranty claims would be astronomical.

I think you have no idea on modding cars and what each componant does. You simply rely on forums and when people tell you how it is, you won't believe them anyways, until someone says something what you want to hear. Like adding meth for example. If you don't tune for it, you will lose power. People think that stuff is like nitrous. No offense but obviously money is no issue to you but money doesn't buy brains...

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I dont know about his personal experience with cars but sorry to say I agree about the fuel. Unless all of these cars are purchased special and tuned differently to run on 87 octane I cant see how the Lambo or the Z06 or any of the other cars he has raced are even running. If I put 87 octane in my Z06 it would knock like crazy and do some serious damage.
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Originally Posted by radride
How did you test the fuel?? Did you send it out to the lab or did you use your butt dyno?? Either way I find it very hard to believe that in a land of excess with super cars everywhere, there is no true 91 octane. So what you are saying is that all supercars are no running on 87 octane just like the Lambo you raced? I highly doubt it. Those guys would be going through motors like crazy and Ferrai, Lambo, Mercedes, BMW would be pulling out of there because the warranty claims would be astronomical.

I think you have no idea on modding cars and what each componant does. You simply rely on forums and when people tell you how it is, you won't believe them anyways, until someone says something what you want to hear. Like adding meth for example. If you don't tune for it, you will lose power. People think that stuff is like nitrous. No offense but obviously money is no issue to you but money doesn't buy brains...

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I tested in lab of course, yes i dont have an idea about modding this is the first car i mode do you have a problem do you want me to learn every thing in modding in single night ??? and most of things i learn is from this forum what wrong with that ?? Meth was a friend idea and there is two different METH if you dont know

1- there is one need to tune thats need dyno tuning .
2- one just for cooling the car a little and that dont need tuning .

non taken i know that like i said first time modding a car and i love it every day .
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Originally Posted by alrasheed1991
I tested in lab of course, yes i dont have an idea about modding this is the first car i mode do you have a problem do you want me to learn every thing in modding in single night ??? and most of things i learn is from this forum what wrong with that ?? Meth was a friend idea and there is two different METH if you dont know

1- there is one need to tune thats need dyno tuning .
2- one just for cooling the car a little and that dont need tuning .

non taken i know that like i said first time modding a car and i love it every day .

Just so you know, you are completely wrong with your meth theory. I run meth in my car and without any tuning, you will lose power.

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I dont know about his personal experience with cars but sorry to say I agree about the fuel. Unless all of these cars are purchased special and tuned differently to run on 87 octane I cant see how the Lambo or the Z06 or any of the other cars he has raced are even running. If I put 87 octane in my Z06 it would knock like crazy and do some serious damage.
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How did you test the fuel?? Did you send it out to the lab or did you use your butt dyno?? Either way I find it very hard to believe that in a land of excess with super cars everywhere, there is no true 91 octane. So what you are saying is that all supercars are no running on 87 octane just like the Lambo you raced? I highly doubt it. Those guys would be going through motors like crazy and Ferrai, Lambo, Mercedes, BMW would be pulling out of there because the warranty claims would be astronomical.

I think you have no idea on modding cars and what each componant does. You simply rely on forums and when people tell you how it is, you won't believe them anyways, until someone says something what you want to hear. Like adding meth for example. If you don't tune for it, you will lose power. People think that stuff is like nitrous. No offense but obviously money is no issue to you but money doesn't buy brains...

R.K.

Just you guys know that Saudi Cars have a small different than other Gulf cars but i am not sure correct me if i am wrong i just photographed my Lexus Driver door and made a simple translate through google

here is the photo and the translation

Browsing this car all Gulf Standards and SAUDI Automotive issued until the date of production
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