Whats the range of VINs that are affected by the M156 head issues?
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Yes it is 156985 60 038339 . Again, most MY 2010 and all 2009 and earlier are in the affected group.
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Checked out vehicle and it is pretty clean and minor stone chips on the hood that have been covered up with touch up paint. If price is right then I might get it despite still being on the bad list and hope for the best. Eventually getting the Weistac bolts
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bhamg, Theory says corrosion needs two (at least) dissimilar elements and electrolyte. Coolant is primarily developed for aluminum/iron and I have seen it work well in many engines. The worst I saw was an Audi which had a thermostat housing heavily eaten away. But as I said to merc, WTF is the explanation here? I would think alloy steel bolts would be less prone to rust than cast iron, e.g. water pump impellers and iron blocks .
Someone 'splain it to me in terms like...the coolant additives somehow have been depleted at the head bolt interface and water (electrolyte) is separated from solution and attacking iron in the classic manner. There must be a chemist or metallurgist out there... Please don't make me try to research on line...
I would like failure analysis. Wouldn't you? regards , motoman
Someone 'splain it to me in terms like...the coolant additives somehow have been depleted at the head bolt interface and water (electrolyte) is separated from solution and attacking iron in the classic manner. There must be a chemist or metallurgist out there... Please don't make me try to research on line...
I would like failure analysis. Wouldn't you? regards , motoman
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^ Agreed motoman. Somebody please step up. IIRC there is a packet of additives embedded in the cooling system designed to maintain a constant level of protection by replenishing
additives that are used up over time.
additives that are used up over time.
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Anyone know the answer to this? Did MB ever change the camshaft adjusters on M156 production?
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Can you check my vin WDDGF7HB0BF622678
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Hello everyone,
I am in the purchasing process of a 2009 C63 and have learned of these headbolt failures. This car has 52k original miles and the seller is asking $22,500.
Is this a risky purchase?
Are there any tell tell signs of the failing headbolt before it fails?
I have seen the weistec replacement bolts.
Does anyone think that Mercedes would possibly good will this repair since its a well known failure?
I learned of the active recall on the airbags.
How common are the failures to the valves?
Thanks in advance for any input.
VIN: WDDG77XX9F26829
-Ronnie
I am in the purchasing process of a 2009 C63 and have learned of these headbolt failures. This car has 52k original miles and the seller is asking $22,500.
Is this a risky purchase?
Are there any tell tell signs of the failing headbolt before it fails?
I have seen the weistec replacement bolts.
Does anyone think that Mercedes would possibly good will this repair since its a well known failure?
I learned of the active recall on the airbags.
How common are the failures to the valves?
Thanks in advance for any input.
VIN: WDDG77XX9F26829
-Ronnie
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Hi Joe, So I have just found this head bolt issue after all these years, nothing has happened yet and it shows no sign of wear and tear.
Could you check VIN WDDGF77X79F209471
As I am struggling to find any place to find if its affected or not. Probably is but about time it starts getting tuned.
Could you check VIN WDDGF77X79F209471
As I am struggling to find any place to find if its affected or not. Probably is but about time it starts getting tuned.
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Hi Joe, So I have just found this head bolt issue after all these years, nothing has happened yet and it shows no sign of wear and tear.
Could you check VIN WDDGF77X79F209471
As I am struggling to find any place to find if its affected or not. Probably is but about time it starts getting tuned.
Could you check VIN WDDGF77X79F209471
As I am struggling to find any place to find if its affected or not. Probably is but about time it starts getting tuned.
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Not 100% accurate.
Mine is November 2010 build, and I have he new bolts. I confirmed that last week when I had my cracked valve cover replaced
Short of taking the valve covers off, I think the best to go on is after engine 60658 & if it has the black plastic valve covers.
Mine is November 2010 build, and I have he new bolts. I confirmed that last week when I had my cracked valve cover replaced
Short of taking the valve covers off, I think the best to go on is after engine 60658 & if it has the black plastic valve covers.
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It is accurate. Post your VIN. US car? If no, then it may not be 2010.
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Australian Car.
And mad a mistake, car is December build. NOT November. My Apologies!
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Australian Car.
And made a mistake, car is December build. NOT November. My Apologies!
Australian Car.
And made a mistake, car is December build. NOT November. My Apologies!
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Fair point, but pardon my ignorance, maybe the next question will be a dumb one but ill ask it anyway...
Whist my car is Australian, why would that even matter? They are all built in Germany, so the build date & engine number on the data-card are given at the AMG Factory in Germany. Therefor the US Model year process would be the same? The only date that would change would be the "Delivery Date"??
Whist my car is Australian, why would that even matter? They are all built in Germany, so the build date & engine number on the data-card are given at the AMG Factory in Germany. Therefor the US Model year process would be the same? The only date that would change would be the "Delivery Date"??
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Fair point, but pardon my ignorance, maybe the next question will be a dumb one but ill ask it anyway...
Whist my car is Australian, why would that even matter? They are all built in Germany, so the build date & engine number on the data-card are given at the AMG Factory in Germany. Therefor the US Model year process would be the same? The only date that would change would be the "Delivery Date"??
Whist my car is Australian, why would that even matter? They are all built in Germany, so the build date & engine number on the data-card are given at the AMG Factory in Germany. Therefor the US Model year process would be the same? The only date that would change would be the "Delivery Date"??
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WDDGF7HB5AF404251 old thread worth a shot.
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WDDGF7HB5AF404251 old thread worth a shot.
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can you check if my car is in the affected with the old head bolts ? VINWDDGF77XX9F220769
