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Old 04-09-2013, 12:39 AM
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There is new rules for 2008 and newer cars. You can run 10.0 at 135mph without a cage.

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There is new rules for 2008 and newer cars. You can run 10.0 at 135mph without a cage.

Where are you located?
That what I would assumed but there were no specification of years in the rules. I am located in Chicago and am going to Route 66 raceway. Here is the link to the rules for reference:

http://www.route66raceway.com/~/medi...C1A3EC366.ashx
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A 91 tune will run less ignition timing than a 94 tune. Running higher octane fuel will provide more knock resistance before the knock sensor would need to retard timing from heat build up etc.

Skaarlaj, I'm not sure what the boost is tbh. Static compression is stock at 11.3:1, dynamic compression is altered for the blower via the cams to run under boost. The kit comes with larger injectors.

Jacob, go learn how an engine works and basic tuning principles. The higher the octane the better when playing with boost and high static compression engines. (if the fuels stoichiometric ratio remains constant)
How do they control compression thru the cams? Wouldn't that take keeping an exhaust valve open during the compression stroke to achieve? aka dumping precious air / fuel mixture
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Read up on static and dynamic compression ratios and how the cam effects dynamic compression.
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Originally Posted by Blown63
That what I would assumed but there were no specification of years in the rules. I am located in Chicago and am going to Route 66 raceway. Here is the link to the rules for reference:

http://www.route66raceway.com/~/medi...C1A3EC366.ashx
Don't get your hopes up, Route 66 has some of the toughest tech guys I have seen. I have been kicked off many times. you will be traping over 135mph so you will be getting kicked off.

Besides, Byron is usually a faster track than Route 66 and they do not care how fast you go lol. Just show up with a helmet and run.
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Don't get your hopes up, Route 66 has some of the toughest tech guys I have seen. I have been kicked off many times. you will be traping over 135mph so you will be getting kicked off.

Besides, Byron is usually a faster track than Route 66 and they do not care how fast you go lol. Just show up with a helmet and run.

Well that goes that idea, I am just going to head out to Byron to play it safe. Will you have your cars back from Cali by Saturday? You should join
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Well that goes that idea, I am just going to head out to Byron to play it safe. Will you have your cars back from Cali by Saturday? You should join
Nope, I flew back to Chicago last night, cars are still at Weistec. I am flying back out in a couple weeks to do a 1/4 mile event then trailering them both home in my rig.

Good luck out there this weekend.
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Well that goes that idea, I am just going to head out to Byron to play it safe. Will you have your cars back from Cali by Saturday? You should join

Do you have drag radials???

Please get some before you go. Id love to know your results as your time with headers was really close to mine.

What elevation is Chicago?
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Do you have drag radials???

Please get some before you go. Id love to know your results as your time with headers was really close to mine.

What elevation is Chicago?
I am working on it, I will keep you posted. I can't say I know the elevation, but I did a little search and at the strip I will be at is about 690 above sea level?
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PM me your car number when your at the track and I can watch your runs on 1320go.com
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PM me your car number when your at the track and I can watch your runs on 1320go.com

WTF

That is a little creepy lol haha can you view any track from there? I am most likely going to this drag strip in Indiana called No limit Raceway. I will pm you when I am there, I just hope to get my hands on some drag radial before I go.

Anyone have any advice what the best rpm range is I should be trying to launch at?
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WTF

That is a little creepy lol haha can you view any track from there? I am most likely going to this drag strip in Indiana called No limit Raceway. I will pm you when I am there, I just hope to get my hands on some drag radial before I go.

Anyone have any advice what the best rpm range is I should be trying to launch at?

Yep if you know the tracking and car number, you can watch live updates.

Dont hold your RPM up for a long time, the car will cut timing ive heard. Rev it up to around 1500-1700 rpm, I think the TQ convertor grabs at 1800. You will need drag radials or you're wasting your time.

Get some 17 inch wheels made and get Hoosier dot drags.. If you have 18s you can try the nittos.. The sidewall on the nittos isn't soft like the hoosier though, the hooiser is a true drag time only dot rated for a certain drag racing class in NHRA.
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Yep if you know the tracking and car number, you can watch live updates.

Dont hold your RPM up for a long time, the car will cut timing ive heard. Rev it up to around 1500-1700 rpm, I think the TQ convertor grabs at 1800. You will need drag radials or you're wasting your time.

Get some 17 inch wheels made and get Hoosier dot drags.. If you have 18s you can try the nittos.. The sidewall on the nittos isn't soft like the hoosier though, the hooiser is a true drag time only dot rated for a certain drag racing class in NHRA.
I will let you know when I am there, and what my car number will be. I learned my first time at the strip that I shouldn't hold rpm's for a long time. The tranny starts changing gears way before needed in order to protect its self.

I am going to have to run on my new NT05 for this Saturday unless I find someone who is willing to loan/rent me some for a couple of passes. I will have finished placing my order for drag wheels and tires by the weekend and hopefully have everything in before next weekend. I only hope I can find time to go again.

When will your build be completed?
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Wont be done till a couple weeks.

Maybe Jrcart has something kicking around for drag rims.
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Wont be done till a couple weeks.

Maybe Jrcart has something kicking around for drag rims.

I wish that would be great C

Can anyone help out with sizing/offset needed for a 16"-17" wheel?!?! I would rather avoid get costume wheels made. I am thinking 17x8 but with what offset
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Originally Posted by Blown63
WTF

That is a little creepy lol haha can you view any track from there? I am most likely going to this drag strip in Indiana called No limit Raceway. I will pm you when I am there, I just hope to get my hands on some drag radial before I go.

Anyone have any advice what the best rpm range is I should be trying to launch at?
Everyone will have their own opinion so you will have to experiment.

My personal recommendation is that if you are using drag radials, leave it at idle at then floor it as the tyres should handle it. If you are not using drag radials you will have to foot brake so the tires do not get shocked so hard.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Chi town baller! Congrats on your build.. Good luck at the strip! Excited for ya
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Everyone will have their own opinion so you will have to experiment.

My personal recommendation is that if you are using drag radials, leave it at idle at then floor it as the tyres should handle it. If you are not using drag radials you will have to foot brake so the tires do not get shocked so hard.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Thanks for the advice ecampbell

I will update with results when I can, I am praying that she will be ready to be picked up tomorrow. Then I can have some time to get the hang of her
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Chi town baller! Congrats on your build.. Good luck at the strip! Excited for ya
Thanks bro I appreciate it hope to see you on 290/355 one of these days

Do you by chance have red interior?
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Are you running the Braille 2015, 15lbs battery?

If you are, dont leave your radio or anything running. Don't start and shut the car off in the staging lanes moving it up, push it.

It will die on you pretty quick. The GF turned the radio on for about 30 mins maybe and it killed the battery enough that it wouldnt start after.
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Does anyone know what I should be expecting, I know ecampbell ran a 10.01 but I wouldn't use that as a comparison for many obvious reasons. I ordered a V-Box performance box that will be in just in time on Saturday to so I am interested to see the numbers.

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Are you running the Braille 2015, 15lbs battery?

If you are, dont leave your radio or anything running. Don't start and shut the car off in the staging lanes moving it up, push it.

It will die on you pretty quick. The GF turned the radio on for about 30 mins maybe and it killed the battery enough that it wouldnt start after.
Yes, I just added it with everything else, thanks for the reminder! Knowing me and how excited I will be to run I would do something stupid like that haha


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Thank you sir, I will need it with out radials
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You're not going to do great without proper tires to be honest.


Tires and traction are everything at the track. Your MPH will tell you how much power you're putting out and give you an idea of the time you could run with drag tires.

Contact CCW and get them to make ya some 17 inch rims. They will know the offsets, etc.
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If I wasn't moving to Naperville tomorrow I would have tried to hit the track with you on Saturday. Where are you getting your work done? Speedriven? Are you going to change tires at the track or drive out there on DR's?
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You're not going to do great without proper tires to be honest.


Tires and traction are everything at the track. Your MPH will tell you how much power you're putting out and give you an idea of the time you could run with drag tires.

Contact CCW and get them to make ya some 17 inch rims. They will know the offsets, etc.
Yeah I know I am just interested to see what others are running. I haven't seen anything on 1/4 mile times or individuals dyno's yet.


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If I wasn't moving to Naperville tomorrow I would have tried to hit the track with you on Saturday. Where are you getting your work done? Speedriven? Are you going to change tires at the track or drive out there on DR's?
Yes, Speedriven is the only shop I would let work on my car in Chicago. I don't have DR's yet I am working on getting a pair of 17" first, I should have everything in by the end of the month. But I would just change them out at the track if I did.


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