2015 W205 C63: articles, facts, specifications. Rumors: 5.5L V8 TT, M157, 4matic, DCT
12-23-2013, 10:33 AM
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Im sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about.
N54 cars = Twin Turbo (first gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT. only Manual and Auto.
N55 cars = Single turbo (Second gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT.
Only BMW cars that came with DCT transmission are the M's.
N54 cars = Twin Turbo (first gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT. only Manual and Auto.
N55 cars = Single turbo (Second gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT.
Only BMW cars that came with DCT transmission are the M's.
12-23-2013, 10:57 AM
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12-23-2013, 12:47 PM
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Im sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about.
N54 cars = Twin Turbo (first gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT. only Manual and Auto.
N55 cars = Single turbo (Second gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT.
Only BMW cars that came with DCT transmission are the M's.
N54 cars = Twin Turbo (first gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT. only Manual and Auto.
N55 cars = Single turbo (Second gen 335 engines) NEVER CAME WITH DCT.
Only BMW cars that came with DCT transmission are the M's.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Our test car came fitted with BMW’s DCT dual-clutch automated manual ($1575)—new to non-M threes and exclusive to the 335is."
And you sounded so confident too!
12-23-2013, 06:52 PM
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If you read that article the DCT in the non M vehicles were ONLY offered in the IS models. Further more the original poster stated that it was found in the N54 equipped vehicles. The IS model 335's only came with the single turbo N55 engines. And was debut'd in 2011.
It's odd because if you look at the pics car and driver posted
It shows a manual equipped vehicle.
It's odd because if you look at the pics car and driver posted
It shows a manual equipped vehicle.
You're absolutely incorrect.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Our test car came fitted with BMW’s DCT dual-clutch automated manual ($1575)—new to non-M threes and exclusive to the 335is."
And you sounded so confident too!
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Our test car came fitted with BMW’s DCT dual-clutch automated manual ($1575)—new to non-M threes and exclusive to the 335is."
And you sounded so confident too!
12-23-2013, 07:14 PM
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Getrag DCT rwd is good for 700 Nm (510 lb ft)
the ZF autos are rated for 1000 Nm (740 lb ft)
the MB auto 7 sp is good for 540 lb ft, the 5 sp 800 lb ft
this is why MB, Brabus, et al use autos and limit torque to ~1000 Nm
the ZF autos are rated for 1000 Nm (740 lb ft)
the MB auto 7 sp is good for 540 lb ft, the 5 sp 800 lb ft
this is why MB, Brabus, et al use autos and limit torque to ~1000 Nm
12-23-2013, 09:04 PM
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If you read that article the DCT in the non M vehicles were ONLY offered in the IS models. Further more the original poster stated that it was found in the N54 equipped vehicles. The IS model 335's only came with the single turbo N55 engines. And was debut'd in 2011.
It's odd because if you look at the pics car and driver posted
It shows a manual equipped vehicle.
It's odd because if you look at the pics car and driver posted
It shows a manual equipped vehicle.
12-23-2013, 09:55 PM
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The 7 speed auto is greatly improved, now called the 7g tronic+. It's what's in the SL65 now and capable of at least 738 tq.
The upcoming 9 speed is also rated at 738 tq, matching the V12tt output. It's been designed with AMG in mind. I expect to see the 9 speed in upcoming AMG cars either as the regular 9 speed auto or a 9MCT config.
12-23-2013, 10:14 PM
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If you read that article the DCT in the non M vehicles were ONLY offered in the IS models. Further more the original poster stated that it was found in the N54 equipped vehicles. The IS model 335's only came with the single turbo N55 engines. And was debut'd in 2011. It's odd because if you look at the pics car and driver posted It shows a manual equipped vehicle.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=702807&page=3
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12-23-2013, 10:17 PM
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I mean everyone is wrong from time to time but why did he have to insist that he was right without doing the research? Frustrating.
12-24-2013, 12:09 AM
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The 7 speed auto is greatly improved, now called the 7g tronic+. It's what's in the SL65 now and capable of at least 738 tq.
The upcoming 9 speed is also rated at 738 tq, matching the V12tt output. It's been designed with AMG in mind. I expect to see the 9 speed in upcoming AMG cars either as the regular 9 speed auto or a 9MCT config.
The upcoming 9 speed is also rated at 738 tq, matching the V12tt output. It's been designed with AMG in mind. I expect to see the 9 speed in upcoming AMG cars either as the regular 9 speed auto or a 9MCT config.
The 9G has a torque capacity of 1000Nm/738ft-lbs with a torque converter. There has been no announcement of a MCT wet clutch version of the 9G yet, but expect it to have an even higher torque capacity.
12-24-2013, 08:15 AM
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When can we realistically expect the new 9spd?
Having a hard time waiting on the new C63 and may bite on an e63 in the meantime but this trans situation (m5's is so much better) has me hesitating.
Having a hard time waiting on the new C63 and may bite on an e63 in the meantime but this trans situation (m5's is so much better) has me hesitating.
12-25-2013, 05:47 PM
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The December 23 issue of AutoWeek has an article on the W205. It says the C63 is getting the bi-turbo 4.0 liter motor but there is no mention of the tranny. Release date is indicated as late 2014.
The new Corvette is AW's car of the year.
The new Corvette is AW's car of the year.
12-27-2013, 02:28 AM
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not quite accurate
MCT from AMG can handle more than 1000Nm (740lb ft) for sure.
my CLS63PP currently is about 1130Nm (840lbs-ft) to the rear wheels. on Mainline dyno. stock 720NM (540lbs-ft) to the real wheels.
you do the engine calculation power.and Brabus limits the Torque to 1200Nm
12-28-2013, 04:28 PM
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But alas, yet another render. Damn.
Oh well thanks for the render.
12-29-2013, 02:41 PM
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We do not need 9 speed freaking boxes.. sheesh this fuel economy thing is getting out of hand. Fine for regular econoboxes, but when you come to muscle, fuel economy is not something that is at the top of the factor list.
12-29-2013, 03:11 PM
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01-03-2014, 05:48 PM
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Not as fast...noticeably slower. But not unbearable like your standard "shiftable auto". It gets the job done but there is that millisecond where it's like eh, could be faster...
