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Old 12-10-2013 | 11:39 PM
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M3 & M4 Revealed

Saw it on another forum.

The M3 looks badass.











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http://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-...m4-reveal.html

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Old 12-10-2013 | 11:41 PM
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So they finally decided to keep the M3 alive and go with both M3/M4?
Not bad. How about the engine?
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:02 AM
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not sure if it's just me, but it looks like an acura TL in that first pic. not hating, as i am a fan of the M3.
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by abcut973
So they finally decided to keep the M3 alive and go with both M3/M4?
Not bad. How about the engine?
It seems like they changed the nomenclature for their cars. Odd numbers are sedans, and even numbers are coupes. i.e. the new 2-series coupe isn't a 1-series coupe anymore.

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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:23 AM
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So they finally decided to keep the M3 alive and go with both M3/M4?
Not bad. How about the engine?
The engine is a tweaked version of the old twin-turbo N54 that powered the 2007-2010 E90/E92 335i sedans and coupes.

More horsepower, more torque, lower redline as compared to the outgoing S65 motor.

The new M3/M4 is lighter as well.
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:25 AM
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So they finally decided to keep the M3 alive and go with both M3/M4?
Not bad. How about the engine?
Twin turbocharged 6 cylinders. 430hp, 370lb-ft, under 3,306 lb (1500kg) weight: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=892746
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zibby43
The engine is a tweaked version of the old twin-turbo N54 that powered the 2007-2010 E90/E92 335i sedans and coupes.

More horsepower, more torque, lower redline as compared to the outgoing S65 motor.

The new M3/M4 is lighter as well.
It's actually a heavily tweaked version of the N55, but with 2 turbos. Redline is said above 7500rpms: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=893935

Haha I've been following this all along :P
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by alexmtl
It's actually a heavily tweaked version of the N55, but with 2 turbos. Redline is said above 7500rpms: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=893935

Haha I've been following this all along :P
Also the N54 engine is open deck while the new M3's are closed deck engines.
Old 12-11-2013 | 12:36 AM
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The N54 had two turbos.

And I'm pretty sure the new engine shares more in common with the N54 than the N55 but I could be wrong.

Edit: It's primarily derived from the N55, despite the fact that a twin-turbo design has been reimplemented.

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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:45 AM
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Looking good! I like the colours too. I guess we are just waiting to see official pricing and specs. Wish Mercedes would release something soon on the AMG C classes.
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:41 AM
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I have been waiting for this car to come out for so many years. Glad to say I made the choice of being impatient and getting the c63. Love the body, it's outstanding and beautiful IMO. But the engine....very disappointed. Especially with the torque numbers on the turbos, and the small horsepower jump. AND the redline and high end lack of power. Finally got that off my chest. Woo
Old 12-11-2013 | 02:19 AM
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All new S55 engine with M5/M6 DCT but shorter final drive … electric power steering, carbon fiber roof, trunk lid (coupe only), driveshaft and strut bar … if the M4 indeed comes in at 3300 lbs … 424hp and 369 ft-lb torque should make it a great performer!
Old 12-11-2013 | 02:21 AM
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damn love that it will be so light! everything is sick except fake sounds, under powered engine(im sure can be fixed with a tune) and EPS. WHY EPS!?
Old 12-11-2013 | 02:38 AM
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damn love that it will be so light! everything is sick except fake sounds, under powered engine(im sure can be fixed with a tune) and EPS. WHY EPS!?
Electric power steering is more efficient because it doesn't drain engine power. My F10 M5 has it … takes a little time to get used to, but I like it … 3 settings for steering: Comfort, sport and sport+ … M3/M4 will have an electronic LSD as well. Not sure if M3/M4 will use energy recovery system, which M5/M6 has.
Old 12-11-2013 | 05:08 AM
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3300 lbs is VERY low.

You need to realize it's 500 lbs lower than the current C63 (maybe more). MB has it's work cut up for it.
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Also for those who say it's underpowered, it has the same power to weight ratio than C63 507.. Just because it's so light!
Old 12-11-2013 | 10:27 AM
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M4 looks great. M3 is just the same as previous version .... no ????
Old 12-11-2013 | 11:10 AM
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Old 12-11-2013 | 11:24 AM
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Old 12-11-2013 | 11:25 AM
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I like the M4, but the M3 just looks weird to me.
Old 12-11-2013 | 11:31 AM
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Is that an active Spoiler in the front bumper....the left side looks down and the right side looks up?






Old 12-11-2013 | 11:36 AM
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I noticed that too. But looking through the pics on Topgear's release. It's just an illusion.
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Originally Posted by forcefed6.4ford
I noticed that too. But looking through the pics on Topgear's release. It's just an illusion.


I think you're right
Old 12-11-2013 | 11:46 AM
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I will say this. It's a very striking car. I am also happy with the interior.


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