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Old 12-19-2013, 12:46 PM
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ECU Adaptation Time

How long/how many miles does it take for the ECU to adapt to modifications? I recently had longtube headers installed and now, even with a retune to account for the headers, the car still feels more sluggish and less responsive. Or did the car just lose some low end because of a lack of back pressure?
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It should adapt fairly quick. One or two days to get you to the sweet spot your looking for. I really dont believe it takes that long. Usually after i get something done with the car, i usually drive it for a couple of hours (4) and i dont really feel a difference after that. But if i dont have the time to run through some hard quick runs, up and down the rpm range in different gears, i give it 2 days max. If i feel something is not right with the car, i go back to the tuner to see if they first feel what im describing and its not just in my head and second re-tune.

what is the feeling? does it feel slower than before? Is the tune correct for the mods you have done? Have you done a before and after dyno to see what kind of gains you got?
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Thanks, I haven't really had a chance to drive the car that much or that hard, but in general it just seems more sluggish and less responsive, like I have to step on the gas harder or push the pedal farther to get it to accelerate. I guess I feel like before just flexing my toes even in C in 7th got the car to jump forward and now I really have to move my whole foot. The retune for the headers came right from Eurocharged, so I am assuming it is correct, but I may try installing it again. Haven't done any dyno runs.
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Thanks, I haven't really had a chance to drive the car that much or that hard, but in general it just seems more sluggish and less responsive, like I have to step on the gas harder or push the pedal farther to get it to accelerate. I guess I feel like before just flexing my toes even in C in 7th got the car to jump forward and now I really have to move my whole foot. The retune for the headers came right from Eurocharged, so I am assuming it is correct, but I may try installing it again. Haven't done any dyno runs.
I have the same thing. Tried re flashing it nothing changed.
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What about the whole "disconnect the battery overnight" thing on any new flash to effectuate? Have seen that mentioned in multiple places. Was actually going to ask in a new thread is this needed, optional or what?
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What about the whole "disconnect the battery overnight" thing on any new flash to effectuate? Have seen that mentioned in multiple places. Was actually going to ask in a new thread is this needed, optional or what?
I had to do that for my tune to run 100%.
Mainly for the shifting. It was shifting all funky until I unplugged the battery overnight.
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What about the whole "disconnect the battery overnight" thing on any new flash to effectuate? Have seen that mentioned in multiple places. Was actually going to ask in a new thread is this needed, optional or what?
I guess I will try reflashing the ECU and disconnecting the battery.
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Try six high speed runs to redline (or close to it). That'll probably do it.
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Yes, disconnect battery overnight and re connect in the morning and drive.

It will clear adaptations so that the next 50-100 miles the car can re adapt (-:

PM if there are any more questions !
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Originally Posted by sales@eurocharged.com
Yes, disconnect battery overnight and re connect in the morning and drive. It will clear adaptations so that the next 50-100 miles the car can re adapt (-: PM if there are any more questions !
Is this required in every tuning scenario or only in cases where there seem to be issues or lack of improvement?

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