2014: Velos Designwerks | + 60WHP Upgrade | Performance Software w/ PT
01-27-2014, 06:22 PM
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2014: Velos Designwerks | + 60WHP Upgrade | Performance Software w/ PT
Dear Members,
We have noticed more and more new C63 owners here on the forums in the past couple of months and we hope to have more activity in this section. It is no secret that the C63 AMG is a powerful car "out of the box" however when tuned properly a completely different monster is unleashed. We have had the pleasure of building several C63s and tuning hundreds of others around the globe.
To begin the new year we want to assure you we will be offering the same great service with the same great results for the upcoming year.
Our performance software solutions will give you control of your software and give you access to factory and tuned modes when necessary. Gains are appreciated through out the entire RPM band. Throttle response is also improved in all driving modes.
The package includes the personal tuner, cables, and instructions. A PC is required to transfer the files (ie a jump drive) but not required to program car. You do not need a laptop the personal tuner works independent of a lap top.
If you have any other questions feel free to PM, Email or post in the thread. There are also several reviews on the forum and members who can provide more real world feedback.
- We have several other packages available that include headers as well as exhaust systems to pair with the software. PM if interested.
Peak gains:
+57 WHP
+28 FT/LBS of Torque.
Advantages:
Access to Multiple tunes (ie factory file)
No need to remove ECU
Quick Turnaround
Ease of upgrade down the road if needed
PM me with any inquiry and for MBWorld member pricing.
We have noticed more and more new C63 owners here on the forums in the past couple of months and we hope to have more activity in this section. It is no secret that the C63 AMG is a powerful car "out of the box" however when tuned properly a completely different monster is unleashed. We have had the pleasure of building several C63s and tuning hundreds of others around the globe.
To begin the new year we want to assure you we will be offering the same great service with the same great results for the upcoming year.
Our performance software solutions will give you control of your software and give you access to factory and tuned modes when necessary. Gains are appreciated through out the entire RPM band. Throttle response is also improved in all driving modes.
The package includes the personal tuner, cables, and instructions. A PC is required to transfer the files (ie a jump drive) but not required to program car. You do not need a laptop the personal tuner works independent of a lap top.
If you have any other questions feel free to PM, Email or post in the thread. There are also several reviews on the forum and members who can provide more real world feedback.
- We have several other packages available that include headers as well as exhaust systems to pair with the software. PM if interested.
Peak gains:
+57 WHP
+28 FT/LBS of Torque.
Advantages:
Access to Multiple tunes (ie factory file)
No need to remove ECU
Quick Turnaround
Ease of upgrade down the road if needed
PM me with any inquiry and for MBWorld member pricing.
Last edited by kenny@velos; 01-27-2014 at 06:33 PM.
01-27-2014, 06:32 PM
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As we all know there are many tunes for the c63. Can you shed some light on the 50tq drop from 2250-2750 rpm and the plateau of hp in the same range?
01-28-2014, 12:46 PM
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Regarding the 507 we are still in development on the software and will release something by mid February. Gains will be minimal but there will be other benefits in the software.
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01-28-2014, 01:02 PM
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Ah ok. I was going to say that would feel like hitting the brakes real quick before going WOT again
01-29-2014, 11:49 AM
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01-29-2014, 01:20 PM
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Right, I'm trying to figure out what the horsepower gains will be at the crank because that's the spec everyone talks about with these cars...451 hp at the crank stock. So, approximately what does +57 whp equate to at the crank?
01-29-2014, 03:09 PM
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For example we made around 412 rwhp on this particular run. To find the crank numbers we would need to go up around 21-23% to find an 18% drivetrain loss.
412 + 22% = 503
503 - 18% (Drivetrain Loss) = 412
The one thing we cannot bring into the equation is whether or not manufacturers advertise their vehicles with more or less than they really come with. As we all know claims are usually close and more of a marketing tactic.
If you have any other questions on this please give us a call and we would have no problem discussing.
All other pm's have been replied to. We currently have a few units left at the early bird pricing that are ready to ship out.
Best Regards,
01-29-2014, 03:43 PM
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Assuming Mercedes claims are "accurate" is up for debate. We do not want to get too sidetracked but we should assume an 18% drivetrain loss on the C63 platform. To get the same number you would have to go up roughly 22%.
For example we made around 412 rwhp on this particular run. To find the crank numbers we would need to go up around 21-23% to find an 18% drivetrain loss.
412 + 22% = 503
503 - 18% (Drivetrain Loss) = 412
The one thing we cannot bring into the equation is whether or not manufacturers advertise their vehicles with more or less than they really come with. As we all know claims are usually close and more of a marketing tactic.
If you have any other questions on this please give us a call and we would have no problem discussing.
All other pm's have been replied to. We currently have a few units left at the early bird pricing that are ready to ship out.
Best Regards,
For example we made around 412 rwhp on this particular run. To find the crank numbers we would need to go up around 21-23% to find an 18% drivetrain loss.
412 + 22% = 503
503 - 18% (Drivetrain Loss) = 412
The one thing we cannot bring into the equation is whether or not manufacturers advertise their vehicles with more or less than they really come with. As we all know claims are usually close and more of a marketing tactic.
If you have any other questions on this please give us a call and we would have no problem discussing.
All other pm's have been replied to. We currently have a few units left at the early bird pricing that are ready to ship out.
Best Regards,
Your math is incorrect.
If you make 412 whp (assuming 18% loss as others said, don't quote me) then you take 412 divide by 0.82 = 503
The equation is BHP * (1 - 0.18) = WHP
Which to get BHP means...
BHP = WHP/0.82
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01-29-2014, 04:31 PM
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Dont want to get into this too much but when you make 412 to the wheels and then someone asks the BHP its hard to compare that way because stock RWHP does not usually match up these days with what the Manufacturers advertise.
01-29-2014, 04:34 PM
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I know what you're talking about.
Just saying your math is totally wrong lol. If it's 18% loss, you don't use a higher % to (back)calculate the BHP. That's just plain wrong.
Just saying your math is totally wrong lol. If it's 18% loss, you don't use a higher % to (back)calculate the BHP. That's just plain wrong.
01-29-2014, 04:41 PM
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Your equation is correct. That was not my main focus, just getting to the numbers quickly without making it complicated. Most people assume you take out a calculator opposed to using an actual formula to get the number? This way it would be easier for everyone to understand. I dont want anyone to think well 412 plus 18% gives me 486 and then be like "ahhhhhh, whats wrong" but yes you are absolutely correct with the equation above which gives you the same number. Just hope everyone knows this was not a math lesson lol. Thanks again for your input and confirming that.
01-30-2014, 02:29 PM
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I ran 490 WHP with the velos tune, so probably around 470 realisticly after correction, so probably close to 550-580 crank HP
02-05-2014, 07:57 PM
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Wait... you're running 490whp ? You better have full catless headers/xpipe/mids with ROWs and filters + Velos Tune. Otherwise those are crank numbers.
02-05-2014, 08:08 PM
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this is one of the runs with velos before cat delete
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