u should offer a refund because its such a short notice
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Snow is not the issue, the ground underneath is. Safety is always first and foremost.
There is no way for any vehicle to race on the course as it lays right now. The same decision to reschedule would have been made if we had rain, snow, or adversely low temperatures.
New date is Friday July 11th
You mean the same electronic way they found out about the event? like Email /FB/Forum and phone?
There is no way for any vehicle to race on the course as it lays right now. The same decision to reschedule would have been made if we had rain, snow, or adversely low temperatures.
New date is Friday July 11th
You mean the same electronic way they found out about the event? like Email /FB/Forum and phone?
But we don't have rain or snow or adversely low temps in the forecast, instead we have a situation that was completely avoidable!
Yes the same electronic way, I haven't received an email on this I caught it on this forum and I don't have Facebook, but keep in mind not everyone is attached to their electronic device like others.
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No one could see the extent to which the ground was sunken until the snow melted. If you check the weather, today was the warmest it has been in months, so it is the best indication of how the surface would be prior saturday.
To make a call earlier, with insufficient information, would have angered just as many people for not holding out longer, just the same as waiting until the day prior would have angered more people for not deciding sooner. The situation is what it is.
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I understand snow is t the issue! I presented 3 options that would allow the race to continue on. Why would not one of them be able to happen?
But we don't have rain or snow or adversely low temps in the forecast, instead we have a situation that was completely avoidable!
Yes the same electronic way, I haven't received an email on this I caught it on this forum and I don't have Facebook, but keep in mind not everyone is attached to their electronic device like others.
But we don't have rain or snow or adversely low temps in the forecast, instead we have a situation that was completely avoidable!
Yes the same electronic way, I haven't received an email on this I caught it on this forum and I don't have Facebook, but keep in mind not everyone is attached to their electronic device like others.
There are no 3 options as that line is in the middle of the front straight, not near the roll race start or finish. It will be at the 1000' mark in either direction.
You tell me how ground sinking is avoidable? Im all ears. As for notification, you know, via one the mediums that we use to promote the event, so the process for rescheduling is working just the same.
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This is not the preliminary inspection, it is the final inspection. According to Pocono, this happens every year, but never this bad and has always been ready to go. Has never happened to this extent, as they would have not given up the dates.
No one could see the extent to which the ground was sunken until the snow melted. If you check the weather, today was the warmest it has been in months, so it is the best indication of how the surface would be prior saturday.
To make a call earlier, with insufficient information, would have angered just as many people for not holding out longer, just the same as waiting until the day prior would have angered more people for not deciding sooner. The situation is what it is.
No one could see the extent to which the ground was sunken until the snow melted. If you check the weather, today was the warmest it has been in months, so it is the best indication of how the surface would be prior saturday.
To make a call earlier, with insufficient information, would have angered just as many people for not holding out longer, just the same as waiting until the day prior would have angered more people for not deciding sooner. The situation is what it is.
I get what your saying that safety is number one, but there are options, this isn't a PTA meeting that 6 board members attend.
I can not attend July 11th, please refund my driver and (2) spectator passes. I will follow this up with a pm to my Paypal.
Thank you.
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Lost Marine, I disagree whole heatedly here as individuals who have already traveled o then travel again would not have had to take vacation time and drive long distances for no reason.
I get what your saying that safety is number one, but there are options, this isn't a PTA meeting that 6 board members attend.
I can not attend July 11th, please refund my driver and (2) spectator passes. I will follow this up with a pm to my Paypal.
Thank you.
I get what your saying that safety is number one, but there are options, this isn't a PTA meeting that 6 board members attend.
I can not attend July 11th, please refund my driver and (2) spectator passes. I will follow this up with a pm to my Paypal.
Thank you.
First I need you to understand this:
1. There are never any refunds with racing events, we go above and beyond by offering secondary dates
2. I understand your concern and we are working on a few things that should satisfy everyone.
hold tight
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Lm. NO biggie I guess I have more time to install my new toys.
Guys give him some credit for setting this event up and hope they set up more events like this bc you guys have no idea what it take to set something up like this .
Guys give him some credit for setting this event up and hope they set up more events like this bc you guys have no idea what it take to set something up like this .
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I have a house about 2 min from the raceway and I know what the roads are like. There is snow all around there. My backyard is still covered in 4-6 inches of snow/ice. There isn't much he can do about that. Sucks about the refunds though!
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wont be in the country for the new date... If someone is interested in buying my ticket, I just need to contact slipstream right?
mthis whats happening at Etown, i heard there was drifting that weekend I wanna try it lol
mthis whats happening at Etown, i heard there was drifting that weekend I wanna try it lol
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Yes, people can still transfer, that is part of what we are working on. just as many people want to buy passes still, as those of you that want refunds. Sit tight, we're not looking to disappoint just because we have adverse conditions
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I have no clue I just know they open and I made plans to race and I'm going to race somewhere Saturday lol
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Anyone that is complaining in this thread shouldn't be involved in anytype of racing.. With racing you take the good with the bad.. I drove from ny to Sebring raceway to find out that my diff was worn out these things happen, ask dads how many trips he's made to not race. At least you didn't show up Saturday morning and find out.... you cannot control weather or effects of weather Mthis and I have traveled to Mir and atco and been rained out fogged out or just plain old crappy day. Get used to it! Give Steve credit for even giving you guys the opertunity to have this type of fun in the first place.
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Anyone that is complaining in this thread shouldn't be involved in anytype of racing.. With racing you take the good with the bad.. I drove from ny to Sebring raceway to find out that my diff was worn out these things happen, ask dads how many trips he's made to not race. At least you didn't show up Saturday morning and find out.... you cannot control weather or effects of weather Mthis and I have traveled to Mir and atco and been rained out fogged out or just plain old crappy day. Get used to it! Give Steve credit for even giving you guys the opertunity to have this type of fun in the first place.
The difference here is, your diff was bad (no ones fault other than your own), rain, fog, snow, temps, all things that are non avoidable. An issue with the track caused by snow is repairable and or allows for other options. Don't just throw in the towel, get it fixed.
Guys I'm not trying to be a deuce here, just merely trying to find other avenues to make the event happen. I am in the general contracting business and yes these things do happen, it is how you proceed that matters. Asphalt plants are open, call a local contractor, get him out there and get it repaired, very simple.
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Then again, with all the work that went into this, I am sure Steve and his crew optioned everything out and probably figured moving the date was best.
Guys I didn't mean to come across as an un-appreciating assho, I am just disappointed as well as hundreds of others I guess and have a lot invested in this with friends who have already traveled to make this event and such.
I also have a different personality then some, when I am hit with adversity, I do my best to persevere, and to me this is a small, very correctable issue at hand.
To others this is a huge deal, they will probably get engineers involved to assess the soft zone, have test bore samples taken, engineer it to death, to then put the job out for bid, giving the job to the lowest most competent contractor with the best price, spending 10 times the amount had they just got a paver to come in, overexcavate the soft zone 2'-3', backfill it with 57 stone to subgrade and match the existing pavement surfaces - DONE in a day!
Their way - $100K - $150K
My way - $15K - $25K
Also Steve, I along with others I am sure, are thankful for the refund option, and do thank you for your efforts. Frustration got the best of me and my apologies go out to you. I didn't notice the refund option until telling my wife I would be leaving our Myrtle Beach vacation a few days early to attend the new date, so I will see what happens. How long do we have to make the decision of a refund?
Guys I didn't mean to come across as an un-appreciating assho, I am just disappointed as well as hundreds of others I guess and have a lot invested in this with friends who have already traveled to make this event and such.
I also have a different personality then some, when I am hit with adversity, I do my best to persevere, and to me this is a small, very correctable issue at hand.
To others this is a huge deal, they will probably get engineers involved to assess the soft zone, have test bore samples taken, engineer it to death, to then put the job out for bid, giving the job to the lowest most competent contractor with the best price, spending 10 times the amount had they just got a paver to come in, overexcavate the soft zone 2'-3', backfill it with 57 stone to subgrade and match the existing pavement surfaces - DONE in a day!
Their way - $100K - $150K
My way - $15K - $25K
Also Steve, I along with others I am sure, are thankful for the refund option, and do thank you for your efforts. Frustration got the best of me and my apologies go out to you. I didn't notice the refund option until telling my wife I would be leaving our Myrtle Beach vacation a few days early to attend the new date, so I will see what happens. How long do we have to make the decision of a refund?
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So you're not a ticket holder, no vested interest in this particular event, but since you have experience with event cancellations that gives you the right to tell us not to be disappointed and complain a bit? You and the E.C. Act like no complaints were going to come up over this.
The difference here is, your diff was bad (no ones fault other than your own), rain, fog, snow, temps, all things that are non avoidable. An issue with the track caused by snow is repairable and or allows for other options. Don't just throw in the towel, get it fixed.
Guys I'm not trying to be a deuce here, just merely trying to find other avenues to make the event happen. I am in the general contracting business and yes these things do happen, it is how you proceed that matters. Asphalt plants are open, call a local contractor, get him out there and get it repaired, very simple.
The difference here is, your diff was bad (no ones fault other than your own), rain, fog, snow, temps, all things that are non avoidable. An issue with the track caused by snow is repairable and or allows for other options. Don't just throw in the towel, get it fixed.
Guys I'm not trying to be a deuce here, just merely trying to find other avenues to make the event happen. I am in the general contracting business and yes these things do happen, it is how you proceed that matters. Asphalt plants are open, call a local contractor, get him out there and get it repaired, very simple.
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Then again, with all the work that went into this, I am sure Steve and his crew optioned everything out and probably figured moving the date was best.
Guys I didn't mean to come across as an un-appreciating assho, I am just disappointed as well as hundreds of others I guess and have a lot invested in this with friends who have already traveled to make this event and such.
I also have a different personality then some, when I am hit with adversity, I do my best to persevere, and to me this is a small, very correctable issue at hand.
To others this is a huge deal, they will probably get engineers involved to assess the soft zone, have test bore samples taken, engineer it to death, to then put the job out for bid, giving the job to the lowest most competent contractor with the best price, spending 10 times the amount had they just got a paver to come in, overexcavate the soft zone 2'-3', backfill it with 57 stone to subgrade and match the existing pavement surfaces - DONE in a day!
Their way - $100K - $150K
My way - $15K - $25K
Also Steve, I along with others I am sure, are thankful for the refund option, and do thank you for your efforts. Frustration got the best of me and my apologies go out to you. I didn't notice the refund option until telling my wife I would be leaving our Myrtle Beach vacation a few days early to attend the new date, so I will see what happens. How long do we have to make the decision of a refund?
Guys I didn't mean to come across as an un-appreciating assho, I am just disappointed as well as hundreds of others I guess and have a lot invested in this with friends who have already traveled to make this event and such.
I also have a different personality then some, when I am hit with adversity, I do my best to persevere, and to me this is a small, very correctable issue at hand.
To others this is a huge deal, they will probably get engineers involved to assess the soft zone, have test bore samples taken, engineer it to death, to then put the job out for bid, giving the job to the lowest most competent contractor with the best price, spending 10 times the amount had they just got a paver to come in, overexcavate the soft zone 2'-3', backfill it with 57 stone to subgrade and match the existing pavement surfaces - DONE in a day!
Their way - $100K - $150K
My way - $15K - $25K
Also Steve, I along with others I am sure, are thankful for the refund option, and do thank you for your efforts. Frustration got the best of me and my apologies go out to you. I didn't notice the refund option until telling my wife I would be leaving our Myrtle Beach vacation a few days early to attend the new date, so I will see what happens. How long do we have to make the decision of a refund?
