Wavetrac being installed
05-25-2014, 12:05 AM
#26
MBWorld Fanatic!
Gents,
Out of curiosity, how many hrs for typical install of the LSD?
Out of curiosity, how many hrs for typical install of the LSD?
05-25-2014, 01:10 AM
#27
05-25-2014, 01:13 AM
#28
MBWorld Fanatic!
05-25-2014, 01:23 AM
#29
05-25-2014, 09:39 AM
#30
05-25-2014, 01:44 PM
#32
Senior Member
@jasonoff, is it something one can do as a DIY and if u have an oem lsd, any real benefit doing this?
thank you
thank you
05-25-2014, 03:44 PM
#33
MBWorld Fanatic!
No this is not a run of the mill DIY. You need very specific tools to swap the ring gear and bearings over.
I didn't have an OEM LSD so I'm not sure. Wavetrac is mechanical where OEM is clutch. They behave differently and have different locking percentages (Wavetrack is also adjustable).
I didn't have an OEM LSD so I'm not sure. Wavetrac is mechanical where OEM is clutch. They behave differently and have different locking percentages (Wavetrack is also adjustable).
05-25-2014, 03:53 PM
#34
I'm pretty handy; brake jobs, clutches, valve adjustment, etc
Over 30 years shadetree experience on BMW's, Porsches, etc
This was more than I wanted to tackle
Tools
Some say a press
A lift
But most importantly the knowledge base to shim /set it up properly
It was the best money I've spent on a 'mod'
Imho in this case a 'must'
Over 30 years shadetree experience on BMW's, Porsches, etc
This was more than I wanted to tackle
Tools
Some say a press
A lift
But most importantly the knowledge base to shim /set it up properly
It was the best money I've spent on a 'mod'
Imho in this case a 'must'
05-25-2014, 03:54 PM
#35
MBWorld Fanatic!
As I type this
Looked at having AGC do it but it was just too far
A good deal but when mileage, time , hotel factored in didn't work out
Found a place Sheptrans 3 hours from home
A good deal also but more importantly seems like a quality operation
Specializes in trannys , diffs & xfer cases
A real organized and well equipped operation
Has a rep for gtr and evo work
And the owner is an AMG guy
06 e55 modded I think
12 e63 with ceramics
And a 8.5 sec 175 mph gtr
He was disappointed it didnt do 185
He showed me the diff, a real nice piece of engineering
In fact he bought one for his e55
I have a high degree of confidence that it will done right
Looked at having AGC do it but it was just too far
A good deal but when mileage, time , hotel factored in didn't work out
Found a place Sheptrans 3 hours from home
A good deal also but more importantly seems like a quality operation
Specializes in trannys , diffs & xfer cases
A real organized and well equipped operation
Has a rep for gtr and evo work
And the owner is an AMG guy
06 e55 modded I think
12 e63 with ceramics
And a 8.5 sec 175 mph gtr
He was disappointed it didnt do 185
He showed me the diff, a real nice piece of engineering
In fact he bought one for his e55
I have a high degree of confidence that it will done right
05-25-2014, 03:57 PM
#36
MBWorld Fanatic!
05-25-2014, 04:03 PM
#37
MBWorld Fanatic!
I'm pretty handy; brake jobs, clutches, valve adjustment, etc
Over 30 years shadetree experience on BMW's, Porsches, etc
This was more than I wanted to tackle
Tools
Some say a press
A lift
But most importantly the knowledge base to shim /set it up properly
It was the best money I've spent on a 'mod'
Imho in this case a 'must'
Over 30 years shadetree experience on BMW's, Porsches, etc
This was more than I wanted to tackle
Tools
Some say a press
A lift
But most importantly the knowledge base to shim /set it up properly
It was the best money I've spent on a 'mod'
Imho in this case a 'must'
A bearing cone heater (may be able to get away with an oven)
A lift would be handy but un-necessary. Pulled my pumpkin on the garage floor.
There are no shims.
05-25-2014, 10:33 PM
#39
MBWorld Fanatic!
How is the ring and pinion spacing set without shims? Last time I did one (a Porsche so it was different) checking the mesh pattern and redoing the spacing was critical for silent running. How does MB do this?
05-26-2014, 08:06 AM
#40
MBWorld Fanatic!
My factory backlash was within spec and still within spec with the Wavetrack.
05-26-2014, 10:08 AM
#41
John had shims just in case but didn't need them
The only hiccup was some components use an external 12 point fastener and he didn't have the tools
As soon as he realized it the Cornwall tool guy pulled in
Problem solved
The only hiccup was some components use an external 12 point fastener and he didn't have the tools
As soon as he realized it the Cornwall tool guy pulled in
Problem solved
05-26-2014, 11:28 AM
#42
MBWorld Fanatic!
So he would have shimmed the ring gear if the backlash was out of spec?
05-26-2014, 11:39 AM
#43
05-26-2014, 12:52 PM
#44
MBWorld Fanatic!
Just cross your fingers
05-26-2014, 01:09 PM
#45
Carrier side to side
Wavetrac sent him the shims
They have a MB pn
The also show on the mb parts program
I have more confidence in sheptrans than I do you
Infinitely
They were on the order of 100 ths of an inch
Similar set-up as in the link
Diagram item 17 mid way down
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/344307-w201-differential-refresh-thread-3.html
Last edited by Ingenieur; 05-26-2014 at 01:21 PM.
05-26-2014, 02:24 PM
#49
OEM LSD cuts power no matter what if you WOT it even with brand new tires ..unless you turn ESP OFF but you run the risk of doing donuts then
05-26-2014, 02:24 PM
#50
MBWorld Fanatic!
