Ingenieur

I would never visit that shytehole by choice tough guy lol
You gonna teach me a lesson about love of country?
What a sugar panties you are sally

He wore a US Army uniform
You disrespect the military?
He was there , you were not, you Jodie m effer lol
war is hell but you wouldn't know rambo
It made one guy creep into villages and murder kids and women
Perhaps in your god-like self perception you can divine intent of soul
I saw a lot of guys like you in the service
Always running FROM the fight
All hat, no cattle...all mouth, no spine

Mitch111

Now this is a man that can teach the knuckleheads a thing or 2 about the ladies. The man clearly knows and applies House Rule #1: If Momma ain't happy, dadgummit, NOBODY'S frickin happy.

Not to mention, looks like he has one of the best kinda ladies to have.......she drives a loud, insane C63 and exemplifies why we endearingly call ladies car nuts "Car Guys".

And ya betta not mess wit' Texas. Those boys & girls don't muck around. Oh, don't come to Florida messin' around either. We're half-brothers with Texas; got the same daddy and we'll put it on you, too.

What!? Man, don't be gettin all riled up. All states are badass in their own way. Okay, maybe not all.

estrellajon

I think if GM focuses on quality maybe they can compete as a world class auto maker.

I grew up with domestic cars and had my share on working on them. Was a Chevy guy but they keep falling apart. They use junk materials all across the board. Still does .

Ingenieur

You paid for it ("bought her") and put it in her name?
Lucky girl

Ingenieur

Doesn't matter a tinkers damn where a man is from
Has nothing to do with toughness or fighting ability

I come from an area where a lot of the employment is in mills and mines
Hard men doing hard jobs
The highest per capita military service rate
And some of the best universities in the world
An a public school system that draws companies to the area for the intelligent workers it produces

I come from where his football team comes from

Not getting 'riled' up ...0 emotional content
Don't appreciate my patriotism being besmirched when I state fact
US drivers suck
Interstate vs autobahn
Teen accident rates
Dui's
Licensing requirements and training
How many monitor mpg to monitor engine health (how many can even calculate mpg!? Lol)
Put oil in car
Check air pressure
Read a friggin' map

Can't fix a problem until you realize that there is one

Kriston

This topic got pretty intense!

JRSJR65

LOL a couple times I get you now Enginequeer, I'm from Steubenville, OH a river rat Steel City dropout redneck...If you only understood and cared for me, for God's sake I am cleaning my 1990 Corvette drinking Bud Light while the cheap hideous plastic breaks and crumbles in my hands.
Long way Corvettes have come since a 1990 ZR1 to todays 2014/15 C7 and beyond.

Ingenieur

'Queer'?
So you're a homophobic gay basher... The picture becomes clearer
I think he doth protest too loudly

Are you an alchy?
Are you drunk now?
'A couple times I get you' ??? Wtf
Understood and cared for you?
Respect is earned and should be mutual

JRSJR65

No I have love for the gay man, just figured I'd give you some material to work with. See if you had a sense of humor and were willing to put the knife down and give me a hug.

And hell yeah I totally enjoy cleaning my car with a cold beer at home on a Friday night. Yeehaw Mfk'r that's just good American living...call me what you want I don't care. Peace and I love you man.

Now back on subject. Just saying the Corvette has come leaps and bounds ahead over the years in advancements. It was an old cheap plastic interior POS in 1990 (see pic). BUT even back then it drove well, handling is incredible, just a turd in terms of build material quality. Back to the top car by OP what a beautiful transformation the Corvette has made.
Cadillac as well, (see pic). From building an old white 72 Hurst with 500ci to today's CTS-V models.

Worth the wait

At least this thread sounds like it belongs on the corvette forums

What I have read is that the ZO6 will be very bit of $100K and there are no plans to build a ZR1.

And you have to respect ANY car that has 450ft/lbs of torque AT IDLE.

That said, let's she if she'll hook up.

JRHolt

Sorry for the rant I went on earlier guys but I am pretty passionate about cars and GM just really pisses me off. I wanted to like the Corvette but the build quality is just horrid. They have improved the material quality on the interior but if you ever take one apart you would be shocked at how cheap and flimsy they are put together It's really sad.

With that said, I just trade my2006 SLK55 AMG in for a 2014 C63 AMG Coupe Edition 507 The car is awesome!!!!


Take care everyone and drive safe

Ingenieur

I have no more 'love' ( respect ) for a gay man than any man (or woman for that matter
I try to look at the person, not the label
I try to develop my opinion (or they develop it for me) based on his actions
Race, creed, faith , politics, nationality, etc. or sexual orientation are not factors
It's hard to truce when terms like you used are tossed about
Having said that as far as I'm concerned we have a clean slate to work with

If you read my posts you'll see I have been an advocate of the vette (and American cars in general) they are getting better every year and closing the gap rapidly

The new base vette is A LOT of car for the $$$
The z06 will be a force to be reckoned with
Rough around the edges but basically Ferrari level performance for 1/3 the $$$
The proof is that euro reviews are positive and the cars are selling well there

JRHolt

No one is denying that the Corvette is fast but what irks me is the fact that they try to tout the quality of their interior and the new build quality which is a bunch of bull crap. They are still held together with plastic pins and Velcro.

You can make Yugo go fast but that doesn't mean it's a good car. There is no comparison between the driving experience of a Corvette and an AMG IMHO.

I don't want to turn this thread into a pissing match but that is just my experience over the years after owning several Corvettes and now changing over to a Mercedes AMG.

If someone wants to pay that much money for Corvette than that is their prerogative but I will never spend another penny on one.

Ingenieur

Most mfgs use vendors for interior equipment so quality is dependent on the portion of the budget allocated for the interior...high end or low end stuff
Same applies c klasse vs s, 2 series vs 7 series, etc

I will say this: GM is improving, the euros not as fast which means the gap is shrinking

No flame war but my RS4 interior was better than my AMG
It's design was a bit dated but material quality, ergonomics/MMI, fit & finish all better, like a 'bank vault', even the doors were better
Almost self-closing using a double articulated " spring over" set-up
Easier to get into also; lower and taller
Audi interiors are imo the best in the biz (and what GM should be studying)

-Marlin-

America is comprised of ethnicities from all over the world. They come here to showcase their talents (or not) in a free market.....and if a car is derived from the American Dream of a Russian last name, more power to us. When is the last time you saw a Russian super car?

I think the new Vette is very nice. Pretty affordable base model too for the average Joe. I'd call it a "Super Car." It's not for me because I prefer four doors, but hey different strokes for different folks. I like it in black because some of the flare of the body kit flows a little better.

Definitely a head turner, great exhaust note, and I like that you can up your mpg's instantly in long road trips with the push of a button.

Not a Chevy guy, but I appreciate the new Vette and would love to take a ride in one. And if someone has one as their pride and joy, I congratulate. I don't try to diminish their earned accomplishment by cutting it down.

dremorg

Back on topic. I'm not gonna lie, I thought about the Z06. It is an absolute beast & a hell of a bang for your buck, but I'm not much of an American car fan. I thought I'd go for something that I thought would be a little more exclusive & IMO, prettier to look at so I ordered the 2015 F-Type R Coupe.

mbslowner

I'm debating between Z06 and Z51. I always love SL and have never been fan of corvette before until C7 came out catching my eye. I think I would go for Z06. It has more power and looks aggressive and exotic super car.

mbslowner

I totally agreed in the past corvette never being compared with AMG. You will be surprised if you drive C7 or Z06 when it comes out.

sinape62

I was on the fence buying the Stingray...I eventually passed and got the C63 instead. I wouldn't mind buying a second hand one a few years from now...

hyperion667

it's amazing there isn't a daily deathtoll sign telling us about the all the American's that die each day: kind of like the debt sign of American's LOL//////


I'm shocked there are not 100's of deaths a day from stupid drivers

Ingenieur

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/12s1103.pdf

ONLY 36000 deaths per year
About 11 mil accidents
The accident rate is ~constant but death rate has gone down
Cars are safer. Accidents are more survivable

I work in safety
In general equipment failure is only responsible for a few percent of accidents
Human error accounts for most of it
Varies with mode, ie, flying is more dependent on equipment

I dont consider failure to check tire pressure and a blow out or hanging 2 lbs off a key an equipment failure

Just look at what it takes to get a license here vs euro
You can have multiple dui's here and keep your license
In some countries 1 or 2 and you are done for life
We are good at making excuses for our failures
Some call it compassion, some forgiveness
But we selectively apply it
The more money you have, the more likely you are to be 'forgiven' lol

hyperion667

people are not scared enough, kind of like the justice system...


looks like CA and TX are the winners of losers

Ingenieur

The history channel had a program about the autobahn, german drivers vs US,etc
They asked german engineers how they could make US drivers safer/more careful
They said replace the steering wheel airbag with a spike lol

The requirements for obtaining a license should be more rigorous

Everyone thinks they are a better driver than the other guy
Just like they think they are smarter, better politics, more astute, spiritually enlightened, etc
It would be laughable if that attitude wasn't eff'n the world up so badly

Good news US rate almost halved 1990-2009
Mostly due to
More euro cars being sold and their tech trickle
Government mandates & regulations

Not any altruistic initiative by big business lol