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Old 06-14-2014, 01:12 AM
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I really hope that tuners can play with this!
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To me it is a sad sad day. I love a massive v8 the throttle response, the noise, etc. Might as well just buy a Tesla model S now. I really think I might be rockin my c63 till the wheels fall off.
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AMG came up with the sound we love so much. They were even able to make a 4cyl sound pretty darn cool, better than expectations.

Why do we think it will sound terrible, aside from preconceived notions that displacement = audio heaven?

If it's not the size, it's something else. If it's not the torque, it's something else. If it's not the performance, it's something else. This happens each and every time a MFR releases a new product. The folks with the current or previous gens pull their hair out about how it will never be as good as what they have, and the MFR is ruining the brand, etc. Then it comes out, they drive it, are in a position to buy one, do it, and love it.

Rinse and repeat with every single new model. C55 sucks, where is the boost, wahhhhh!!! C63 sucks, they have taken all the balance out of the car, made it a drag racer, wahhhhhh! Facelift sucks, who needs a new transmission, and the look is so much softer and not as aggressive! More electronic BS to go wrong....Wahhhhh!

Rinse and repeat. Just realize, it's going to better than the current version, like it always is, and save the e-tears
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cant believe there are people on this forum who are not worried about sound.


This is the first car I ever bought partially due to the sound.
Didn't even have it as a variable before the test drive.


Numbers don't make you enjoy a car. The experience of the car does.


This is a visceral car. Hopefully they keep that feeling.
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Technology has com a long way, we now have very capable and performing V6s whether single/double turbo, force inducted, etc. We also have very capable V8s as well. I drove my supercharged corvette from california to Florida, and back and I averaged around 26MPG. Grandted that as long as the RPMs were below 2200, the SC wouldn't engage.

In this case, I think the old saying of "there's no replacement for displacement" still applies. I think the C63 V8 is a great sounding car on the road, at WOT, on idle waiting on a traffic light, people hear it and look. I will think the V6 will give a sound that is similar and close to the outgoing V8 motor. Those AMG dudes are car guys too.

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I will think the V6 will give a sound that is similar and close to the outgoing V8 motor. They are car guys too.
It is a v8 not a v6
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It is a v8 not a v6
oh yeah duh, 4.0, my bad. I still think they will deliver something that comes close or duplicates the sound. That's piping. I still prefer the NA block myself.
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Pretty interesting turbo packaging. Probably very efficient because of the short exhaust and intake routing. But what worries me is the underhood temps, could get pretty darn high unless they have some excellent insulation around the turbine housings and exhaust pipes.
It will definitely run hot under the hood, but shouldn't be an issue at all. BMW and Audi both do the same. I know on the BMW M5/M6, they actually placed the ECU right over the engine on top of the turbo and downpipes because the Bosch units run so hot they had to be tied into the coolant system.

I'm definitely excited to see the potential of this engine and what it's capable of doing.
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Originally Posted by Conv_GSDriver
I still think they will deliver something that comes close or duplicates the sound. That's piping.
No, they won't be able to duplicate the sound. The problem with turbos from a sound standpoint is that they're natural mufflers. So much so that the Fiat Abarth relies on its turbo alone -- it literally has no muffler in the tailpipe.

BMW has pretty much given up on this for its turbo engines: it just uses the car's stereo to pipe in a synthetic motor noise.

Given AMG's heritage I'm guessing they'll work hard to get some rasp in to the exhaust but I wouldn't take it as a given that it'll be a great sound.
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month ago i did had a 60 km ride in the new E 63 AMG S 4MATIC with 585 horses, quick as **** but compare to my C63, its quiet booooring, and the sound is also really quiet actually, once the new C AMG will be on the same league, think will keep my C63 forewer , same said me mate who was driving it too and who also own C63 ...
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It has reverse flow heads. Exhaust comes out the inside of the V into the turbos and the fresh air is pumped in where a conventional exhaust manifold would normally be.

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One thing that is exciting to me is that with 500hp I would imagine this is priced closer to the Carrera 4S than to the 991 Turbo. That would make this car much more accessible than I expected.

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