LOOKING FOR HEADERS
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LOOKING FOR HEADERS
Hi I've been looking around for headers for my 09 C63.
I found MBH headers but they're 2950 on their website.
Anyone know anyplace they sell them for cheaper?
Or another brand of headers that are proven good with a lower price?
How many of you guys actually have mbh headers and how are they?
I found MBH headers but they're 2950 on their website.
Anyone know anyplace they sell them for cheaper?
Or another brand of headers that are proven good with a lower price?
How many of you guys actually have mbh headers and how are they?
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There is a very good sticky at the top of the C63 AMG forum that explains your options. I would not do a shorty, not enough of a gain for the money. If and when I do long tube headers, I'll contact Jeremy of OETuning, he has a very good deal on some long tubes.
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Here we go with another header thread...
There's a link where you can find all info on all different types of headers.
Mbh headers are a great design but they are not a "true" longtube headers. (Here come the mbh fanboys.) They are a full length header. The quality is A+! And, these headers really shine in the higher rpms. Can't go wrong with these.
Benzwork headers are a true long tube as are MHP's. If you want "true, true" long tubes you go with either or. But, benzworks don't not offer mid pipes to go along with their header. And, MHP will get bashed on this forum (Google seach mhp/andy)
Agency power are mid length headers, which for the price and gains, I think are pretty solid! Never heard any complaints from owners about these.
Shorties, as stated before are a waste of time and money. You might as well chop of your primaries and you'll prolly net more hp at fraction of the cost.
At the end of the day, check your budget, do some of your own research and I think that will help you.
There's a link where you can find all info on all different types of headers.
Mbh headers are a great design but they are not a "true" longtube headers. (Here come the mbh fanboys.) They are a full length header. The quality is A+! And, these headers really shine in the higher rpms. Can't go wrong with these.
Benzwork headers are a true long tube as are MHP's. If you want "true, true" long tubes you go with either or. But, benzworks don't not offer mid pipes to go along with their header. And, MHP will get bashed on this forum (Google seach mhp/andy)
Agency power are mid length headers, which for the price and gains, I think are pretty solid! Never heard any complaints from owners about these.
Shorties, as stated before are a waste of time and money. You might as well chop of your primaries and you'll prolly net more hp at fraction of the cost.
At the end of the day, check your budget, do some of your own research and I think that will help you.
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No I talked to andy 2 weeks ago. He said, 5-7 days to build. 3-5 shipped. Problem is it's hard to get a hold of him...
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
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how much wHP do headers add? I'm thinking of picking up a pair from OEtuning (i'm guessing benzworks) ones..people say 70-120whp is that true? for the price thats a insane gain
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much
pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower 
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much
pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower
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No I talked to andy 2 weeks ago. He said, 5-7 days to build. 3-5 shipped. Problem is it's hard to get a hold of him...
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
To tell you the truth, I bet ARH just doesn't think it's worth fighting MHP over the whole thing because the market is so darn small. ARH has much bigger markets to serve with American Muscle cars.
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This is amazing that anyone can have a copyright to a set of headers for a V8 car. They are all basically the same. 4 tubes into a merge collector, all you have to do is route the tubes so they don't hit anything on the car. There are probably very few ways to do this.
To tell you the truth, I bet ARH just doesn't think it's worth fighting MHP over the whole thing because the market is so darn small. ARH has much bigger markets to serve with American Muscle cars.
To tell you the truth, I bet ARH just doesn't think it's worth fighting MHP over the whole thing because the market is so darn small. ARH has much bigger markets to serve with American Muscle cars.
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how much wHP do headers add? I'm thinking of picking up a pair from OEtuning (i'm guessing benzworks) ones..people say 70-120whp is that true? for the price thats a insane gain
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much
pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower Headers on this car will be right on par with stage 1 blower. If and when I supercharge my car it will be stage 2 at least.
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how much wHP do headers add? I'm thinking of picking up a pair from OEtuning (i'm guessing benzworks) ones..people say 70-120whp is that true? for the price thats a insane gain
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower
P.S damn you guys for making me mod my car so much
pretty sure i have almost every mod minus headers/full exhaust and blower Found this vid, this car has Eurocharged tune, MBH LTH, charcoal delete. He mentioned it was 431whp 403tq on a mustang dyno
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That vid is from 2010. Back with eurocharged v3. They are make more power now and more smoother running. Typically, you'll see yourself now a days with headers, charcoals deleted, and tune between 470-490 or shy of 600 crank give or take. The stock manifolds of this car, are the Achilles heel.
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No I talked to andy 2 weeks ago. He said, 5-7 days to build. 3-5 shipped. Problem is it's hard to get a hold of him...
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
No he owns the copy rights of the c63 headers. You can only buy through him. I've already talked to american headers. They told me to call him
Bwoody also sells Andy's headers.
If we want a competitive design, someone needs to stop by Kooks and try to talk them into entering the market.
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I sent an email to Nick at American Racing Headers and he confirmed that Andy is still in business and that MHP had just bought 3 C63 headers from him this week. He also said that MHP owns the tooling so ARH can not make them. So it's not really a patent issue, it's most likely a contractual issue. I'm guessing that MHP went to ARH to have them make the C63 headers and it sounds like MHP paid ARH for the tooling, therefore, they "own" that design.
If we want a competitive design, someone needs to stop by Kooks and try to talk them into entering the market.
If we want a competitive design, someone needs to stop by Kooks and try to talk them into entering the market.
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I am also looking to decide between BenzWorks and MHP...leaning a bit towards to BenzWorks because of the better customer support and ease of mind. Will follow this thread to see what you end up doing!
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Go look on youtube. Benzwork headers C63. I think the guys name is Sam Gates. Car sounds fantastic. And, pulls like a train. +1 on benzworks customer service.
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Andy's rate of answering a phone calls sucks! However, I agree with ARH/MHP design rather than mbh. If you plan on keeping your car naturally aspirated, the 2inch primary kills low end torque. I've already talked to Serge at benzworks and they have installed mbh and their header which is "true" 4-1 longtube and their's consistently makes more torque. And, to be honest MBH sucks at returning phone calls and emails too. If you wants to get info on MBH headers call dyno- comp. They're the ones that make them. Personally, for me it's either Andy's headers or benzworks.
