Supersprint headers + exhaust
10-07-2014 | 09:19 PM
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Supersprint are made in Italy by the same firm that makes the F1 headers for Ferrari. They are the benchmark. This is my first choice but I need to find out re fit on right hand drive as I do not want clearance issues either in fit or ground clearance problems.
If I could gain 46rwhp from a full system I'd be very happy - but on a 507 that is unlikely. I'm hoping a 50-60rwhp gain from full Supersprint system (Headers to tailpipe) with tune and filters is possible.
IPE and Agency Power headers are basically the same according to my source - different brands, same factory in Asia. Both look great and both fit right hand drive or left. My only issue with them is that my tuner only found 15rwhp with a full system. I'm not paying good money to gain only 15rwhp, no matter how good the sound. Be interested to see if others found a lot more power than that. Might have been a bad set - but they looked good.
If I could gain 46rwhp from a full system I'd be very happy - but on a 507 that is unlikely. I'm hoping a 50-60rwhp gain from full Supersprint system (Headers to tailpipe) with tune and filters is possible.
IPE and Agency Power headers are basically the same according to my source - different brands, same factory in Asia. Both look great and both fit right hand drive or left. My only issue with them is that my tuner only found 15rwhp with a full system. I'm not paying good money to gain only 15rwhp, no matter how good the sound. Be interested to see if others found a lot more power than that. Might have been a bad set - but they looked good.
The company I spoke to ended up doing Cargraphic headers with Supersprint catback for the customer they were working with. I didn't get any feedback on gains.
I doubt the gains between the various mid/long tube headers are significantly different (ie IPE vs Supersprint vs MBH etc). Sure there would be variances, but anything over a 10-15HP variance I would put down to the car / tune / dyno rather than one brand of headers being materially more effective than another.
10-07-2014 | 09:41 PM
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Shame re Supersprint. The Cargraphics stuff looks good though, good website. I might end up doing a hybrid set up too.
re power variables - assuming they are all close in design I would agree. But little things can make a difference such as primary sizes, stepped design, merge collectors, flange fit, weld protrusions inside the pipes etc - all make a difference. For racing there can be 20-30hp between race headers that look like equal quality to the eye on the outside.
re power variables - assuming they are all close in design I would agree. But little things can make a difference such as primary sizes, stepped design, merge collectors, flange fit, weld protrusions inside the pipes etc - all make a difference. For racing there can be 20-30hp between race headers that look like equal quality to the eye on the outside.
10-07-2014 | 11:53 PM
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Evolve is who I was speaking to. They were trying to get Supersprint to fit RHD but they dont fit. Their solution was to use Cargraphic headers with Supersprint back end.
10-08-2014 | 12:00 AM
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10-09-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Not sure what the difference between the 507 and normal C63 is, but looking under my car yesterday I see little benefit in upgrading my exhaust other than adding good headers. From the cats back the 507 factory set up is really good.
10-09-2014 | 08:18 PM
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The problem with headers and standard cat back is that it can make your car really loud. Adding custom mid/back end provides options for toning down this sound a little (additional resonators, valve systems etc). That may or may not be a priority, depending on preference.
10-09-2014 | 08:24 PM
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I've heard that, but car is so quiet in C mode I struggle to find how bad it can be. I'll likely add headers first and find out lol.... adding a cat back later is easy if required. I don't mind a fairly aggressive WOT noise - but like it quiet during cruise
