Originally Posted by Autosport7

Instead of reading what you want to read and spouting off at the mouth, why not read the entire post that the op placed.
Jim, from what I 'understand' of your experience with Weistec, maybe you ought to be more sympathetic with blown63....
Not everyone has the ability or the funds to place their cars on a transport trailer and send it off to Weistec every time they have an issue with their build. Not to mention Jim, if you knew the shop where Weistec authorized the work to be done on op's car, and as one of your previous posts leads us to believe that they are a subpar installer, why the hell wouldn't you open your mouth ahead of time and let op know that?
I am sure this all comes down to different categories of customers had by Weistec.
A. Individuals who basically help fund Weistec with the amount of time their vehicles spend at their shop - This time also allows for R&D time while working on those cars.
B. Customers who have work done at Weistec with no issues whatsoever
C. Customers who have work done at Weistec with some issues, but live nearby and can have all initial work and or follow up work handled by Weistec themselves.
D. Customers who have work done at a Weistec authorized installer location that do not live nearby with no issues whatsoever
E. Customers who have work done at a Weistec authorized installer location that do not live nearby and do have issues. Issues that should ultimately be handled by Weistec as no one has a better handle on their products than they do, but wait... How does Weistec know what a third party installer did when installing the Weistec products?


All of these scenarios present challenges of their own, but none more difficult to address than the last one.


OP and Weistec will get it sorted out I am sure, but when there are issues, I guarantee emotions get involved and that is ok, it happens. But as I said, I am sure they will sort it out.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I am sympathetic to the situation and have met Blown63(not sure if he wants his first name used here or not), I have nothing against him, good guy in my book. I just thought the thread was misleading, calculated and munipulative, a point which you also pointed out and commended the OP for if I am not mistaken. The only problem here is that I know the ENTIRE story which is why I was pressing OP to divulge more info. Bottom line Weistec was forced to fix a lot of [that other shop's] mistakes and that is all I am going to say.

Originally Posted by Autosport7

Instead of reading what you want to read and spouting off at the mouth, why not read the entire post that the op placed.
Jim, from what I 'understand' of your experience with Weistec, maybe you ought to be more sympathetic with blown63....
Not everyone has the ability or the funds to place their cars on a transport trailer and send it off to Weistec every time they have an issue with their build. Not to mention Jim, if you knew the shop where Weistec authorized the work to be done on op's car, and as one of your previous posts leads us to believe that they are a subpar installer, why the hell wouldn't you open your mouth ahead of time and let op know that?
I am sure this all comes down to different categories of customers had by Weistec.
A. Individuals who basically help fund Weistec with the amount of time their vehicles spend at their shop - This time also allows for R&D time while working on those cars.
B. Customers who have work done at Weistec with no issues whatsoever
C. Customers who have work done at Weistec with some issues, but live nearby and can have all initial work and or follow up work handled by Weistec themselves.
D. Customers who have work done at a Weistec authorized installer location that do not live nearby with no issues whatsoever
E. Customers who have work done at a Weistec authorized installer location that do not live nearby and do have issues. Issues that should ultimately be handled by Weistec as no one has a better handle on their products than they do, but wait... How does Weistec know what a third party installer did when installing the Weistec products?


All of these scenarios present challenges of their own, but none more difficult to address than the last one.


OP and Weistec will get it sorted out I am sure, but when there are issues, I guarantee emotions get involved and that is ok, it happens. But as I said, I am sure they will sort it out.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I am sympathetic to the situation and have met Blown63(not sure if he wants his first name used here or not), I have nothing against him, good guy in my book. I just thought the thread was misleading, calculated and munipulative, a point which you also pointed out and commended the OP for if I am not mistaken. The only problem here is that I know the ENTIRE story which is why I was pressing OP to divulge more info. Bottom line Weistec was forced to fix a lot of [that other shop's] mistakes and that is all I am going to say.

Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ

Since all i'm doing is " spouting off at the mouth " , maybe you can answer my question since i'm just reading what I want to read

Why did Weistec have the car for an additional 4 months after the complete build was already done ?

Originally Posted by kimeran

Weistec authorizes the 3rd party to install their products, correct?

Originally Posted by kimeran

So shouldn't Weistec take responsibility for any issues?

Originally Posted by Ingenieur

who did the OP contract with?

did he pay weistec and weistec pay the installer as a subcontractor, ie, 1 contract?
this would make weistec responsible for the installers work

or did the op pay them seperately, ie, 2 contracts?
this would make each party responsible for their scope (overlaps are a tricky issue)

that will determine contractual responsibilty to some extent

Originally Posted by - Guilty -

stupid ****ing thread