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First Pull 100% stock: 409.46whp/364.47tq (additional baselines were ~1whp)
ROW boxes/AFE filters: 411whp/?(will update later)
Eurocharged V5 Tune: 418whp/382.02tq
Runs 4 and 6 were all mods. 4 was 4th gear 6 was 5th. I will download all of the runs tomorrow so they show up better...
As you can see gains were not that impressive, but mostly because it is already a P31. The car seems to be performing similar to other tuned 63's. I also tried the ECU reset(battery disconnect) and did additional runs after it cooled down.
For giggles here is a comparo between my LS1 RX7 and the C63
Ya, not much of a jump. The boxes can be had for $330 from skyland auto.
For a Non p31 with eurocharged v5 tune i dyno'd at 426whp. I was happy with that. Considering the fact that filters and rowboxes together amount to almost the same cost of the tune, i was expecting better results, its a bummer.
Not to hijack but, if not whp then other than just a slightly better sound, what is the benefit of getting filters and rowboxes? Curious to know, if its even worth it
For a Non p31 with eurocharged v5 tune i dyno'd at 426whp. I was happy with that. Considering the fact that filters and rowboxes together amount to almost the same cost of the tune, i was expecting better results, its a bummer.
Not to hijack but, if not whp then other than just a slightly better sound, what is the benefit of getting filters and rowboxes? Curious to know, if its even worth it
It's just an idea at this point, but I'm suspecting the ROW boxes may have more of a hp benefit on un-tuned cars. I'll check the tq numbers tomorrow. There may be more area under the curve....
Surprising result for the ROW boxes and AFE filters. Really does make sense tho I think.
My last time at the track there was a guy there with a C63 he said ROW boxes do not make a difference. we both ran 109MPH passes with same mods (tune, drop in filter) except I had ROW and he didnt.
I was hoping to see a better return on my money as I have the ROW's, Filters, and EC V5 tune as well. I guess being a non P car I would net better performance gains, but overall results are probably very similar.
The upside of things, I only paid $125 for my ROW's and got a great deal on filters as well.
Thanks for posting op.
I've had 2 cars with LS engines...2001 Z28 and a 2006 Vette. Both with long tube headers but Camaro had a decent cam. Great engines. I'd love to do the swap with the 3rd gen RX7. Is it hard to find a 3rd gen? Also, is there a swap kit for it or do you fab everything yourself?
I've got a 507 sedan and will be applying the Eurocharged V5 tune.
Procedure I'm planning to run is:
- Do up to 6 dyno runs stock to ensure stock ECU learning is optimised for Dyno
- Apply the tune
- Disconnect the battery and reconnect it (this is feedback from Eurocharged)
- Do up to 6 dyno runs with the tune
This should give us a decent comparison of the before and after.
Hi there Bardman,
How did your sessions go with the 507? Looking forward to seeing the numbers!
there are plenty of lsX swap kits for 3rd gens. They arent hard to find just pricey, considering there's only about 12000 that made it in the us from 93-95. Just like mkiv supras only the hold their value less. I've actually got one forsale right now. rotary motor still runs but could use a refresh at 84k
back on topic..... every dyno is different. dont ever be disappointed with numbers. dynos are just another tool. the E.T. will tell the truth.
How did your sessions go with the 507? Looking forward to seeing the numbers!
Just got back from the shop.
Frustrating day, I could not get the tune to load. I got an error "File incompatible with ECU". I am following this up with EC.
I did manage to get the before runs done, however, and peak KW at the wheels was 308 kw (converts to 413 hp).
I was really hoping to do before and after runs together to accurately measure the gains, but that will be difficult now, as I'm not going down to the dyno again with fingers crossed that the tune will load.
Bardman, I am in the same place as you with a 507 and V5 tune coming within the next 2 weeks. Would still very much appreciate any updates you can share on the tune (difference it makes for driving and dyno result).
Btw., what did you specify for the tune you wanted? Do they give you options for fuel type it will be optimized for, speed limit and so on?
09-16-2014, 04:46 PM
