I respectfully disagree. There is no right or wrong opinion as personal taste varies.

That said, the shockingly small 4.0L biturbo motor is going to absolutely blow away our 6.2L-equipped cars. It's essentially two CLA45 motors spliced together.

It's going to be insanely easy to tune the 4.0L motor, too.

 

This car still hasn't officially been revealed yet.

Also, not everybody is going to like a car when it comes out. But I have a feeling that many of you (us) will change our tone once we see it in person. Especially if/when companies like mode carbon get their hands on one and get to play around with some spoilers, lips, valences, etc.

Lastly, this 4.0tt engine is likely going to see massive gains on a tune and downpipes. If the e63's are running 10's on a tune and downpipes think what a lighter car will be capable of.

I haven't written this car off yet. If they do end up surprising us with an AWD money then I will buy one. Until then I'll keep my 13.

 

Let me get this straight
5% lighter, but more rigid
>10% more power
>10% more torque
More tire
Better brakes
Better chassis
Much better mpg
~same $$$

And some don't like it because its butt isn't aggressive?
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^ more tires? Same $$?

I doubt lol

My dealership has a fully loaded C400 for 64k$Cad.. That's around what I paid for my C63. I was told the AMG will sell for 10k$ more.

 

Yup, don't like it at present cause of its looks. But I wouldn't kick it outta bed, and I'm sure I'd love one if I had one, even with its diminutive posterior...

 

More 'tire' not 'tires'
Still only 4 lol
245/265 vs 235/255
A lighter car on more tire
My base price WAG 65k
Inflation has been flat
More competition
The US traditionally has had low prices relative to other developed countries

 

The new M3 is 62k US base
A few grand more than the e90 M3 in it's last year

I would expect a similar increase for the AMG????

 

^^ maybe u are right for US market, but in Canada with the 10k$ increase it will put the msrp at 73k$cad plus options & taxes. So Canadians should be paying close to 95k$-100k$ Out the door which is pricey.

 

I'm guessing with a standard option plg 68k
W/O tax, gas guzzler and delivery
Tax usually 4-5k
Delivery 1k or so
Gas guzzler 2k on the old one
76k US

Wonder if this one will get the gas guzzler?
I think it is rated 28 mpg?
Euro: The company claims the new C63’s high performance V8 will sip just 8.2L/100km

 

Just seen the new c class in person and it's ugly as hell.

There was all these new style cars in the dealer and a 507 sitting there, hands down the best looking of the bunch.

 

What's so WTF about that? Why pay $70k+ for a car you don't like the look of? Numbers aren't the only thing that matter..

 

So the butt guys may not like the rear end... Thank god I'm a **** guy because those headlights are suhexayy

 

Because looks are subjective and performance objective
And the main reason you buy a performance car is performance

People around here spend big bucks to eek out a few ponies or shed a few pounds

It will look good to many and many won't like it

If you buy a performance car for looks it better be able to back it up...the new vette and Z28 are much faster around a track than an M4, and imo they aren't good looking

Not saying for example the m4 isn 't a good car but imo the looks are over done and appeal to a F&F crowd whereas the AMG is staid and laid back
2 different market types
Choices are good

 

E63 hit 10's at the quarter mile but we are talking about a bigger V8 bi turbo. So don't expect to reach same output power with a 4.0TT.

No gas guzzler as long as the mixed mpg is > 20. So probably no gas tax on the new C63 as it is for the E63.

 

Not expecting the same power output. Trust me, I know that 5.5TT is just a monster.

However, it wont need as much power. The AWD + E class = heavier.

The C63 will not need as much power to get down the track like that. The biggest factor will be whether or not these cars will hook.

 

^ exactly.As the new C63 will still be RWD the problem of putting down all that power will remain.

 

Supposedly AMG has engineering a way that will put the power down unlike any other RWD car. Forgot where I read that, but they seem to be proud of themselves for this. I figure if that was a focus this car may have a chance to hook really well. Especially because people will be able to put wider wheels and tires in the back which will help.

Or, such as some already do, just run slicks. That will do the trick.

Based on the math's alone...

4400lbs (e63) w/ 700whp = 10.75
3800lbs (c63) w/ 605whp = 10.75

I googled curb weight for e63 and then just sort of guessed for the c63 but they say it should be about 100lbs lighter.

95whp is a TON. I think this 4.0 can compete with the e63. Definitely on highway pulls too

 

the amg 2.0L head is miles better than the 5.5L biturbo. There's a good chance this motor will far out performance the 5.5L . That is if they can keep from melting the hood.

 

Too bad those guys are experiencing turbo failures on tunes.

I'd rather have the displacement and lower boost than high boost with low displacement. The 4.0 will hopefully provide that happy medium.

 

I have not yet seen a 95-100k c63 in canada yet

 

This car will be a beast. Forced Induction will make this car a very tunable car that will put out HUGE gains with just a tune and downpipe like someone mentioned earlier. NA just can't compete with Forced Induction. You guys say "tiny" 4l 6-cylinder motor but its got two turbos that will push more air and fuel into it than a 6.2L V8 and it will produce a whole lot more power and torque as the numbers show. Turbo's not only increase fuel economy but more power. Up the boost and you're talking a reliable 100hp and 100lbs of torque gains over stock! Only for a few hundred bucks.

However, it's too bad it won't be AWD. It doesn't matter how much hp and torque a car produces if it can't put all that power down to the ground efficiently. The GT-R has a "tiny" 3.8L V6 Twin Turbo but we all know how insanely fast those cars are. And when tuned, it's game over. Bigger engine doesn't necessarily mean faster car. There are so many other variables.

I'm finally happy to see the C-class AMG will come boosted from the factory. It will compete very nicely with the new M3/M4 and if the aftermarket support is good enough... it will outperform the bigger brothers E63 AMG's and M5/M6's.

 

It's a 4.0L 8 Cylinder Twin Turbo, not 6 Cylinder.

 

Even better!

 

The performance pack 2012 2013 was 81500+freight taxes etc. it's easily aBove 90; I think it was around 95 when I last checked with evertything in.

 

So maybe do a bit of research first before you write a book.. all credibility was lost when you're talking about engine sizes yet you don't even know the size of the engine you're talking about.