Dark_Knight

yuck, a case of reinventing the wheel and making something stupid, solving a nonexistent problem

Bardman

Good news:

• Standard locking diff
• Performance exhaust an option

Disappointing news:

• No real weight loss
• Still only 265 rear tyres
• No rear wheel arch flare
• Not faster than M3/M4 in straight line (will definitely be slower on the track)
• MCT retained
• "An additional manual mode can be accessed via the shift paddles, although the gearbox is programmed to revert back to full automatic operation for improved fuel economy savings"
• No 4WD option

On the fence news:

• How it looks

Overall, not that exciting a prospect...

rediesel

Gotta have something to fix for the facelift/LCI.

Starky_

Thats one sick looking wagon. And lovin those seats..

Dark_Knight

side view beautiful, red stitching interior, recaros perfect-please do not send us this car with the glass panoramic roof why would I want weight there, look at BMW with carbon roof, i couldn't accept a C63 black series with that glass roof

Dark_Knight

Why C "63" unless the motor is is 6.3 liters displacement (6.208 rounds up to 6.3) dont call it a 63 unless it accelerates to 100 mph in 6.3 seconds or makes 630 hp

Roswell

Yeah the wagon is beautiful! Someone knows if it will hit America?

jordanaf

Agreed...wagon, so nice!!!!!

Sedan is a little ugly. And not the kind to grow on me. Of course, I'll always want the new technology, but I prefer the angled boxy version of the W204. In one of those rolling shots, I don't like the way the trunk comes off the back off the C pillar. Just looks weird. And of course with everyone else, where are the widened rear fenders. If they can do it up front, why not the rear? What's up MB?

2 interesting things from an article here:

2015 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Details, Images Released In Germany: Update
MotorAuthority By Nelson Ireson
9 hours ago


"AMG sports exhaust system with two chromed twin switchable tailpipes and flap control over key"
Flap control? A C63 with artificial exhaust? Is that what I'm taking from this statement? Controllable sound? BOOO!!!!!!


"AMG DYNAMIC SELECT switch on the center console to select the five driving programs "Individual", "Comfort", "Sport", "Sport +" and "Race"
Individual setting? Anyone heard about this yet or have information on this? I'm not familiar with this transmission setting. I'd like to know more. Seems like it's implying there is some way to set up the shift patters or aggressiveness of the tranny. I don't get it. Seems like a gimmick.

Roswell

No more CF shift knob for me? lol

jordanaf

That wagon ain't coming here again. Guaranteed. Bad decision by MB, but it ain't coming.

If it was, I'd put my money up right now!!!!

Roswell

Interesting Jordan, if the exhaust sound is controllable it will take away the AMG signature.

jordanaf

And 2 more things:

The shift lever.............a branch on the steering column? Please!! That makes for a less than manly feel. It's no Buick or 80's sedan. Boo, again!!!

And, did everyone notice in all the shots, they were depicting an "S" model? None of the shots I've seen have been a "regular" C63. All "S" models.

jordanaf

Yeah Meng, when I first started this thread everyone was arguing that it'd still sound like an AMG. I have no doubt the exhaust note will be present, but a valve controlled sound? That's artificial!! And this is from a genuine article from someone that is in Germany and had put their hands on the car and talked with MB engineers.

Boo!!!! Switchable tailpipes and flap control

ToXicXxX

I'll hold onto my W204... Not a fan of boost (I had the chance to buy the first new M4 in Calgary, and turned it down because of the stupid I6TT).

Maybe in 2-3 year's I'll move on to a 2014 507 coupe or something. Not really any naturally aspirated german V8 options out there anymore unfortunately. Stupid environmental laws.

CarHopper

Not artificial, it's like the aftermarket exhaust sold for w204's with a closed and open setting. My 135i had something similar. Sound loud vs quiet. Not like piping in the sound in the m5.

ToXicXxX

Yeah the BMW 35i cars have a vacuum powered flapper in the right half of the exhaust, it only opens up when you boost. My 2014 S4 had "sound piping" and it sounded very fake. When you changed drive select from comfort to sport all of the sudden the car would get very loud inside as if out of nowhere.

zibby43

Personal taste obviously varies. I think the W205 looks incredible, inside and out.

The interior is in another world.





You can't take AMG's claimed performance data as the gospel. According to AMG, the W204 C63 hit 60 in 4.3 or 4.4 seconds. Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Road & Track all managed to cover the 0-60 sprint in either 3.8 or 3.9 seconds.

The S model will likely hit 60 in 3.7 seconds and cover the 1/4 mile in the high 11s. Those are my predictions anyway (and I think they're conservative, to be perfectly honest).

jordanaf

Yeah, still seems bu11**** to me. I hate that flap crap. Let the thing alone and be a true AMG grunt. I understand it's not "pipping" in, but controllable flap, gimmicks. I've been in both of those BMW's you guys described, meh. Didn't care for the strategically sounded exhaust.

I'm happy with my 507.

jordanaf

Anyone yet have info on the "individual" transmission setting? Weird? Doesn't seem possible for MB to let "us" decided on how the car shifts.

And the damn branch on the column..........yuck!!!

zibby43

Not true.

This is the standard model:



This is the "S" model:



The interior and exterior aesthetic differences are marginal and the rears are identical (aside from badging).

jordanaf

Okay, there's no difference though, other than badging. But you're right, that blue one is NOT an "S". All others seem to be, including the wagon.

CarHopper

My guess would be trying to dabble into what the e60 m5 was like with 14 million different settings (suspension, shifts, etc etc etc)

Case1906

Hate the Nav screen location. I thought Merc made the CLA this way to save costs, but am surprised to see the same mess here. Seems like an engineering afterthought. Overall, it looks good but I go have to see a car 'live' before I can really conclude.

Bardman

I dont believe the performance is understated. They have no reason to do this, particularly when they are not quoting better than the competition.

Is nobody else disappointed with this information? Its almost like they ignored all the feedback on the W204.

- MCT
- Skinny rears
- Fender flares
- Weight
- No AWD

And WTF with manual mode that shifts back to automatic by itself?

I wonder whether they addressed the oil cooling?

mr747

This new w205 will **** all over the 507 look what mercedes did with the new E compared to the old E