Losing sleep over my c63. Advice Pls.
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Losing sleep over my c63. Advice Pls.
I drive a c63 2011 with just 46,000 km with 1 year warranty left. (Canada)
So how are maintenance cost after warranty is expire??? I fear it will rape me the longer i keep the car once that expires. anyone have input on this?
Due to me buying a new home and starting a family soon, ive been thinking of getting a F30 335 x-drive sedan, i think its the best in its class interms of looks, practicality and gas mileage. Audi S4 is ugly and pricey. The C400 is nice outside but i cannot get over the Gear lever at wheel, but then again C400 is like $60-65K .
Many times i drive by the Bmw dealer i think to myself.. yeah. i gotta let this car go.. and go practical.. 335 is it. my mind is set...
ANd....5 min later i hear some thunder, like a harley coming from behind.... I look into my mirriors i see a c63 blast by, then... in my mind.. **** it , i put my car into S mode and stomp the gas. ....
This devil of a car wont let me go.
So how are maintenance cost after warranty is expire??? I fear it will rape me the longer i keep the car once that expires. anyone have input on this?
Due to me buying a new home and starting a family soon, ive been thinking of getting a F30 335 x-drive sedan, i think its the best in its class interms of looks, practicality and gas mileage. Audi S4 is ugly and pricey. The C400 is nice outside but i cannot get over the Gear lever at wheel, but then again C400 is like $60-65K .
Many times i drive by the Bmw dealer i think to myself.. yeah. i gotta let this car go.. and go practical.. 335 is it. my mind is set...
ANd....5 min later i hear some thunder, like a harley coming from behind.... I look into my mirriors i see a c63 blast by, then... in my mind.. **** it , i put my car into S mode and stomp the gas. ....
This devil of a car wont let me go.
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Why won't you purchase extended warranty if possible, or go 3rd party if repair costs are an issue. Moving from an AMG to any other car is a downgrade (even if it's a Mercedes!)
Good luck
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'11 C63 P31, '06 Infiniti G35 Sedan (sold), '03 Nissan 350Z (R.I.P.), '15 Toyota Hylander
I drive a c63 2011 with just 46,000 km with 1 year warranty left. (Canada)
So how are maintenance cost after warranty is expire??? I fear it will rape me the longer i keep the car once that expires. anyone have input on this?
Due to me buying a new home and starting a family soon, ive been thinking of getting a F30 335 x-drive sedan, i think its the best in its class interms of looks, practicality and gas mileage. Audi S4 is ugly and pricey. The C400 is nice outside but i cannot get over the Gear lever at wheel, but then again C400 is like $60-65K .
Many times i drive by the Bmw dealer i think to myself.. yeah. i gotta let this car go.. and go practical.. 335 is it. my mind is set...
ANd....5 min later i hear some thunder, like a harley coming from behind.... I look into my mirriors i see a c63 blast by, then... in my mind.. **** it , i put my car into S mode and stomp the gas. ....
This devil of a car wont let me go.
So how are maintenance cost after warranty is expire??? I fear it will rape me the longer i keep the car once that expires. anyone have input on this?
Due to me buying a new home and starting a family soon, ive been thinking of getting a F30 335 x-drive sedan, i think its the best in its class interms of looks, practicality and gas mileage. Audi S4 is ugly and pricey. The C400 is nice outside but i cannot get over the Gear lever at wheel, but then again C400 is like $60-65K .
Many times i drive by the Bmw dealer i think to myself.. yeah. i gotta let this car go.. and go practical.. 335 is it. my mind is set...
ANd....5 min later i hear some thunder, like a harley coming from behind.... I look into my mirriors i see a c63 blast by, then... in my mind.. **** it , i put my car into S mode and stomp the gas. ....
This devil of a car wont let me go.
My '11 C63 has 152,000km on it, and all it's ever needed were the basics (oil, tires, brakes) and one valve-cover gasket repair (<$1000).
Plus... you should never downgrade.
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A 2011 was most likely placed into service in 2010
It is going on 2015
That is 4-5 years and you have a year left?
Is the warranty in Canada 6 years?
As others have said you will lose a lot of $$$ on the transaction
More than an extended warranty or likely repairs will cost
I do not understand why people can't down sit with a pencil and paper and run the numbers and sort this out, with some forum and internet searching all required data can be aquired to make said analysis
We can't think for you, we can't manage your life lol
The maintenance costs have 100 threads
But honestly that is easily determined by using your owners manual, adding tires into the mix
Experience to date
You know the mpg and how much you drive
Etc
Without knowing your personal financial profile we can't possibly offer useful help
Are you married yet?
Have kids?
Pregnant?
Education level?
What you do for a living?
Etc
Seriously I mean really?
Sleep on it lol
It is going on 2015
That is 4-5 years and you have a year left?
Is the warranty in Canada 6 years?
As others have said you will lose a lot of $$$ on the transaction
More than an extended warranty or likely repairs will cost
I do not understand why people can't down sit with a pencil and paper and run the numbers and sort this out, with some forum and internet searching all required data can be aquired to make said analysis
We can't think for you, we can't manage your life lol
The maintenance costs have 100 threads
But honestly that is easily determined by using your owners manual, adding tires into the mix
Experience to date
You know the mpg and how much you drive
Etc
Without knowing your personal financial profile we can't possibly offer useful help
Are you married yet?
Have kids?
Pregnant?
Education level?
What you do for a living?
Etc
Seriously I mean really?
Sleep on it lol
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2011 C63 AMG P31
A 2011 was most likely placed into service in 2010
It is going on 2015
That is 4-5 years and you have a year left?
Is the warranty in Canada 6 years?
As others have said you will lose a lot of $$$ on the transaction
More than an extended warranty or likely repairs will cost
I do not understand why people can't down sit with a pencil and paper and run the numbers and sort this out, with some forum and internet searching all required data can be aquired to make said analysis
We can't think for you, we can't manage your life lol
The maintenance costs have 100 threads
But honestly that is easily determined by using your owners manual, adding tires into the mix
Experience to date
You know the mpg and how much you drive
Etc
Without knowing your personal financial profile we can't possibly offer useful help
Are you married yet?
Have kids?
Pregnant?
Education level?
What you do for a living?
Etc
Seriously I mean really?
Sleep on it lol
It is going on 2015
That is 4-5 years and you have a year left?
Is the warranty in Canada 6 years?
As others have said you will lose a lot of $$$ on the transaction
More than an extended warranty or likely repairs will cost
I do not understand why people can't down sit with a pencil and paper and run the numbers and sort this out, with some forum and internet searching all required data can be aquired to make said analysis
We can't think for you, we can't manage your life lol
The maintenance costs have 100 threads
But honestly that is easily determined by using your owners manual, adding tires into the mix
Experience to date
You know the mpg and how much you drive
Etc
Without knowing your personal financial profile we can't possibly offer useful help
Are you married yet?
Have kids?
Pregnant?
Education level?
What you do for a living?
Etc
Seriously I mean really?
Sleep on it lol
C63's don't really break down mechanically. The M156 is one of the toughest engines ever to come out of Germany, it was over-engineered beyond belief (the byproduct of being built to race specifications, constant abuse and high revs). They truly "Don't build them like they used to" anymore.
Look at the SLS racecars, the one has 50,000km on it without a rebuild. That's incredible for a race engine, I believe it's also a record as of now.
The ONLY 335i worth it's salt is one with an N54, the new N55 is a cheap, cutcorners revision motor. It simply lacks the strength and tuning response of the N54. And this is coming from a guy who see's 10-20 of these a week for tuning. The F30 chassis is also much "softer" then an E90. It uses electromechanical steering (garbage), and in general is more comfort oriented.
I remember seeing N54 335i's with nothing but boltons running 11's. With big turbo's they are next to unstoppable for their class/cost. And the cost of modification is cheap. You could get a new chargepipe with a BOV, downpipes, and a new intercooler, for the cost of C63 headers.
Last edited by ToXicXxX; 11-28-2014 at 01:06 PM.
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if you like the car keep it, buy an aftermarket warranty (extending via MB for amg's is insanely expensive now)
any major repair would be covered, or gamble a little avoid the warranty and just make a little car fund for rainy day repairs, oil changes, etc
OR just go buy a Facelift c63 that still has a lot of warranty left and get the nice new features and peace of mind on a warranty
any major repair would be covered, or gamble a little avoid the warranty and just make a little car fund for rainy day repairs, oil changes, etc
OR just go buy a Facelift c63 that still has a lot of warranty left and get the nice new features and peace of mind on a warranty
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335X are nice cars. But not in the same league as the C63. I bet you'll miss the C63 the minute you drive off the lot in a 335.
Two friends of mine have/had one. It's a great daily driver. But it would be a downgrade that's for sure.
As others pointed out, the money wasted on depreciation on your C63, plus the depreciation on a new (or newish) 335+ taxes on 335 is much more than some maintenance on the C63.
Sometimes people just need new stuff. Buy your car new wheels and add some carbon bits. Or get tune and a LSD (if you don't have it already) and you'll feel like you have a new car. It won't cost near as much as trading down to a 335.
Good luck. [sound] c63 reving [/sound]
Two friends of mine have/had one. It's a great daily driver. But it would be a downgrade that's for sure.
As others pointed out, the money wasted on depreciation on your C63, plus the depreciation on a new (or newish) 335+ taxes on 335 is much more than some maintenance on the C63.
Sometimes people just need new stuff. Buy your car new wheels and add some carbon bits. Or get tune and a LSD (if you don't have it already) and you'll feel like you have a new car. It won't cost near as much as trading down to a 335.
Good luck. [sound] c63 reving [/sound]
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After two C63's, I went to the 335i...5 months later and I'm back in a 2010 C63. The 335i w/ tune and downpipe was fun for about a few weeks...I had much regret...plus the exhaust sounded like a tin can...I was embarrassed driving the darn thing...
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i never bought a warranty when i bought my benz, glad i didn't...the only issue i've ever had with my car is fuel pumps (pretty common in any car really) and a intake manifold was shot when I bought it (they covered it both times it blew) and i probably drove my car harder then most guys on here lol,
anyways don't buy a 40-50k car if you're going to worry about a few K in parts once in awhile, legit..why be about that life when you can't quite afford it yet?
it's like people who drive c300s and leave service A for thousands of Kms over then cry why the car runs like crap..well...lol, don't be cheap
anyways don't buy a 40-50k car if you're going to worry about a few K in parts once in awhile, legit..why be about that life when you can't quite afford it yet?
it's like people who drive c300s and leave service A for thousands of Kms over then cry why the car runs like crap..well...lol, don't be cheap
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i think the main problem is guys with C63s just WOT it off the light hoping all 500hp/xxx tq will just go down smooth as possible, not the case..learn a proper launch and you'll leave a ***** stain on the seat, unless the R35 gives you a boner whenever you see it, theres really no point in getting one unless you live in a city with nice long streets with no lights where you can have a little fun with it atleast or if you want to track it all the time, thats just my 2 cents
Last edited by avery.whss; 11-30-2014 at 04:34 PM.
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meh why? Lol, I've raced a R32 and R35 GTR, pulled them both, R32 had more HP then the R35 and I started pulling after 3rd, it's one of my best friends GTR too and easily is running 500WHP+ ..now the launch in the GTR feels insanely fast because it's AWD but my benz with bald tires with ESP OFF it was side by side when my friend launches his GTR @ 6k so yeah just buy a blower for the benz and call it a day, if you don't believe me i can dig through the texts messages from months ago and show both guys saying their surprised my benz pulled them, but i don't really want too so just take my word for it
i think the main problem is guys with C63s just WOT it off the light hoping all 500hp/xxx tq will just go down smooth as possible, not the case..learn a proper launch and you'll leave a ***** stain on the seat, unless the R35 gives you a boner whenever you see it, theres really no point in getting one unless you live in a city with nice long streets with no lights where you can have a little fun with it atleast or if you want to track it all the time, thats just my 2 cents
i think the main problem is guys with C63s just WOT it off the light hoping all 500hp/xxx tq will just go down smooth as possible, not the case..learn a proper launch and you'll leave a ***** stain on the seat, unless the R35 gives you a boner whenever you see it, theres really no point in getting one unless you live in a city with nice long streets with no lights where you can have a little fun with it atleast or if you want to track it all the time, thats just my 2 cents
C63 is a beast but not in my town. Air is too thin.
And the GTR has been a dream aspiration of mine since I was younger. C63 is amazing and I love it too though.
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I came from a E93 335 with the N54 engine with sports pack and the C63 blows it out of the water. No way I could go back. I don't know about the F30, but I always thought N55 wasn't as good as the N54.
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I came from both E93 335i N54 and 135i N54 and without methanol, the 135i is a touch slower than my stock C63. With meth, probably equal to tune only C63.
The E93 was good but heavy, still with full bolt ons it would nail RS4's, M3's and some Aston's to a point. I regard the N54 as the modern day Toyota 2JZ and when you can pick up a used 335i/135i for nothing, the tuning potential is going to be insane as financial costs won't factor so much due to low purchase price.
For what it's worth, I dyno'd against many N55's with bolt ons and they were always about 30whp less with the same mods.
Tuning aside though, A softer N55 F30 would be a nicer daily driver, not to mention that with an N54 you'll just be waiting for the next set of turbos to rattle, fuel pump up die, injectors to die or water pump to stop, dead, and leave you stranded wherever it decided as the engine just shuts off instantly.
The E93 was good but heavy, still with full bolt ons it would nail RS4's, M3's and some Aston's to a point. I regard the N54 as the modern day Toyota 2JZ and when you can pick up a used 335i/135i for nothing, the tuning potential is going to be insane as financial costs won't factor so much due to low purchase price.
For what it's worth, I dyno'd against many N55's with bolt ons and they were always about 30whp less with the same mods.
Tuning aside though, A softer N55 F30 would be a nicer daily driver, not to mention that with an N54 you'll just be waiting for the next set of turbos to rattle, fuel pump up die, injectors to die or water pump to stop, dead, and leave you stranded wherever it decided as the engine just shuts off instantly.
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I came from both E93 335i N54 and 135i N54 and without methanol, the 135i is a touch slower than my stock C63. With meth, probably equal to tune only C63.
The E93 was good but heavy, still with full bolt ons it would nail RS4's, M3's and some Aston's to a point. I regard the N54 as the modern day Toyota 2JZ and when you can pick up a used 335i/135i for nothing, the tuning potential is going to be insane as financial costs won't factor so much due to low purchase price.
For what it's worth, I dyno'd against many N55's with bolt ons and they were always about 30whp less with the same mods.
Tuning aside though, A softer N55 F30 would be a nicer daily driver, not to mention that with an N54 you'll just be waiting for the next set of turbos to rattle, fuel pump up die, injectors to die or water pump to stop, dead, and leave you stranded wherever it decided as the engine just shuts off instantly.
The E93 was good but heavy, still with full bolt ons it would nail RS4's, M3's and some Aston's to a point. I regard the N54 as the modern day Toyota 2JZ and when you can pick up a used 335i/135i for nothing, the tuning potential is going to be insane as financial costs won't factor so much due to low purchase price.
For what it's worth, I dyno'd against many N55's with bolt ons and they were always about 30whp less with the same mods.
Tuning aside though, A softer N55 F30 would be a nicer daily driver, not to mention that with an N54 you'll just be waiting for the next set of turbos to rattle, fuel pump up die, injectors to die or water pump to stop, dead, and leave you stranded wherever it decided as the engine just shuts off instantly.
Last edited by avery.whss; 12-02-2014 at 07:53 PM.
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Thats why I love my c63, i had 2 blown fuel pumps for about 1.5 months (took forever to get them both) and whenever I'd WOT it the car would go into limp mode after 5k RPM, but funny thing is i still pulled everything that wanted to have a quick go (minus a S63 LOL)..kinda sad that a dog with 3 legs wipes **** with ones with 4, my friend just bought a n54 335i you're saying he's in for a world of problems? he's maybe had it 2 weeks..just stored it for the winter, not sure why...I'll still be reppin my benz on 25 series in the light snow BC gets
You in Vancouver? Just curious.
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Thats why I love my c63, i had 2 blown fuel pumps for about 1.5 months (took forever to get them both) and whenever I'd WOT it the car would go into limp mode after 5k RPM, but funny thing is i still pulled everything that wanted to have a quick go (minus a S63 LOL)..kinda sad that a dog with 3 legs wipes **** with ones with 4, my friend just bought a n54 335i you're saying he's in for a world of problems? he's maybe had it 2 weeks..just stored it for the winter, not sure why...I'll still be reppin my benz on 25 series in the light snow BC gets
The rattling turbos is due to the design of the wastegates whereby the rod that is supposed to keep the pennies closed gets loose. The only real fix is to replace the whole turbo as its all one integrated unit or upgrade to hybrid/big turbo. This is covered under warranty to 84k or X amount of years in the USA though but after that you're on your own and to replace them, engine needs yanking out.
All the other issues should have been covered under warranty, as simply if they hadn't the car wouldn't be running . They are very likely to resurface again one day though and the harder you tune, the more temperamental they get but your friend will be relieved that the parts are now quite cheap.
I hear that the N55 also has issues with its fuel pumps so that's one to watch out for going forward to see how big that impacts them. Poor water pumps have been a BMW a bad point for many models so who knows; time will tell.
The M4 is an amazing machine but, I'm not so sure BMW is ready for a big power, reliable turbo motor yet. I'll be watching it though as potential replacement for my c63 in a couple years.
My 135i was an absolute beast and I miss it so, your friend should just go enjoy it and not worry. If something breaks then deal with it then but he could also have thousands of trouble free miles.
Get him onto E90Post boards for all the technical/tuning info he'll need .
Last edited by Cozy; 12-03-2014 at 03:01 AM.
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I take my kids everywhere in my modded e63 13'. My other car is a c63 2014 coupe pp+. I always think of selling it, once I drive it I'm like nooo way!! Keep the c63 and buy an extension to your warranty.