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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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AMG GTS?? wow! I'd really like to get one just on the appearance alone......dealer is expecting one in April; the Harris review was exciting as well
They are pure candy. After I had driven one like a hooligan for 30 minutes or so, I found myself comfortably chilling in the passenger seat, just cruising along, and I had the thought "hey, this really is a Benz! Quiet, comfy, solid...they did it!" Except unlike the SLS, it's not a chore and a half to drive fast.

And where I think MB has and will really set themselves apart is the ability to make one uniquely yours. There are many different color options, as well as more than a few wheels to choose from, and even down to picking an exterior matching contrast stitching. The GTS felt truly special, and really was dripping with playful lust--I felt like I was inside a candy store (or a strip club). When I got into the Jag F-type R, I felt like I was in a doctor's office.
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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Thanks for sharing! It sounds like AMG has winners in both the C63 and GTS.
Can you share how much of "AMG" is in the C450 AMG sport? Is it just an appearance package?
On a side note, I bought my first AMG from MB Seattle. Great people.
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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They're there!
What was that column mounted gear selecter like? I searched out more pics and it just seems odd.

The exhaust still have the high back pressure gurgle on downshift?
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Thanks for sharing! It sounds like AMG has winners in both the C63 and GTS.
Can you share how much of "AMG" is in the C450 AMG sport? Is it just an appearance package?
On a side note, I bought my first AMG from MB Seattle. Great people.
Great! Do you remember who it was?

To answer your question, no. An AMG appearance package is already available on MB cars. Where AMG is trying to fill a void is between just an appearance package and the full-blown AMG car. Much like the Audi "S" series and the BMW "M-Sport".

From an e-mail I sent a customer earlier today:
AMG is confident that based on technical data alone (and their testing), the car will win mostcomparisons when handed over to the journalists. The car will have the enginefrom the 400, but tuned by AMG engineers (35,000 hours of dyno testing) forhigher output. In addition, the transmission has been reprogrammed to bestaccept that new power, and will also have shift times about half of the 400.The brakes are the same size as the rotors on the C63, and the suspension willalso receive the dampening software from the C63 as well. Probably the biggestthing on the car is that it will receive the AMG variant of the 4MATIC, whichlocks the power split at 67% rear and 33% front—unlike the standard Mercedes4MATIC that will split power up wherever it is needed. Having it fixed willgive the car more of a performance edge and makes driving the car morepredictable, as you will always have an overwhelming amount of power going tothe rear, but the front will provide enough grip to keep the car fromoversteering drastically.

The product managers really wanted to stress the factthat this is an AMG car, but of course that is up for interpretation. It’s notan engine that was produced solely by AMG, and as such, won’t have the plaqueon the engine. I offered up that it’s more of a car that has been blessed bythe High Priests of AMG and has received their magical touch—which is more orless reality.

Some of the other topics we discussed were smaller cosmeticthings, like should the car have an /////AMG badge on the back or not, was theengine bay dressed up enough, were the wheels different enough, etc. They arebeing very careful how the put this car into their lineup, as this is a totallynew arena for MB, and they want to be sensitive to current AMG owners.
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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What was that column mounted gear selecter like? I searched out more pics and it just seems odd.

The exhaust still have the high back pressure gurgle on downshift?
It's exactly the same as what is currently on the E, S, ML, CLA, etc. Just pull it up or down and it goes into gear. Half pulls will go into neutral.

Of course it still does, it's an AMG! Albeit, not as much in comfort mode, as compared to sport or sport+. It's definitely got more of the turbo influence, a la the 5.5L biturbo, but it's still quite snarly--worry not.

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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 10:43 PM
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That is an awesome experience!!! It looks like the interior pictures are more racing inspired with better materials but the NAV system looks like an after thought. It should be integrated into the dash itself. I also hate how my 2010 NAV rolls open.
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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[QUOTE=_Bondo_;6258283]Great! Do you remember who it was?

I had a great experience with Michael and Troy in MB Seattle, but this was back in 2012.
Thanks for the info. I have to admit, I'm a bit torn on the C450 being an AMG-lite version. But, I have to admire the touches of AMG on the engine, trans, and suspension. It sounds to be the perfect daily driver for all 4 seasons.
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Thanks guys, I blame old age lol! New interior is definitely an upgrade! Wonder what the new TT mill will make when tuned!!
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Thanks guys, I blame old age lol! New interior is definitely an upgrade! Wonder what the new TT mill will make when tuned!!
Figure about a 10% bump
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Great! Do you remember who it was?

I had a great experience with Michael and Troy in MB Seattle, but this was back in 2012.
Thanks for the info. I have to admit, I'm a bit torn on the C450 being an AMG-lite version. But, I have to admire the touches of AMG on the engine, trans, and suspension. It sounds to be the perfect daily driver for all 4 seasons.
Ah, ya Michael was here for a few months when I started about 3 years ago, but Troy is still here.

It'll take some time to tell, but think about the fact that this car is supposed to go toe-to-toe with the S4, which certainly isn't "Quattro lite." In fact, all we used to have in the states was the S-model, before RS crawled its way onto our shores.

I think the biggest player in the whole setup on this car is the AMG 4 MATIC, which should allow drivers the wag the tail like they have traditionally loved to do . This alone should make the car drive with a performance bias instead of a "get me through the snow with the highest level of ease and least amount of driver effort possible" I've driven an E63s over Snoqualmie Pass right as a snow flurry was dumping inches on the road, and it was no mild task--but I think a lot of that came down to the tires. But with any traction control on, it just shimmied in place and kinda slid to the side of the road. With TC off I was able to essential throttle steer through the fresh pow. So, definitely much different driving experiences with those two systems
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Hey man, I was just out there last weekend. They let us BEAT on the cars. Amazing!
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Hey man, I was just out there last weekend. They let us BEAT on the cars. Amazing!
https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt-gt...prings-ca.html
Nice writeup, now i really wish i had register'd through the amg lounge and gone.
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