Weistec ruins cars and refuse to take responsibility
02-11-2015, 02:23 PM
#51
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^I couldn't really tell if EC tried to tune it or what, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is why the file is different. Nothing bad against EC either, but if Weistec says the data is different (and they have it documented) on top of this car spending time on a tuners dyno... Come on the answer is staring you in the face.
Good ole Andy. It isn't him, but that is literally all I can think about when threads like this pop up from new joins.
Good ole Andy. It isn't him, but that is literally all I can think about when threads like this pop up from new joins.
02-11-2015, 02:26 PM
#52
^I couldn't really tell if EC tried to tune it or what, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is why the file is different. Nothing bad against EC either, but if Weistec says the data is different (and they have it documented) on top of this car spending time on a tuners dyno... Come on the answer is staring you in the face.
Good ole Andy. It isn't him, but that is literally all I can think about when threads like this pop up from new joins.
Good ole Andy. It isn't him, but that is literally all I can think about when threads like this pop up from new joins.
02-11-2015, 02:30 PM
#53
^I couldn't really tell if EC tried to tune it or what, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is why the file is different. Nothing bad against EC either, but if Weistec says the data is different (and they have it documented) on top of this car spending time on a tuners dyno...
I thought that the most aftermarket tunes are keyed/ encoded that other companies/tuner cant see there work/play arround with the files ...
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02-11-2015, 02:46 PM
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Now I understand better why I saw that car @ EC back in November! 
But I still don't approve these threads popping up out of nowhere ... not really contributing to the forum at all.
GL anyways with your issue.
But I still don't approve these threads popping up out of nowhere ... not really contributing to the forum at all.
GL anyways with your issue.
02-11-2015, 02:49 PM
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Sounds to me like the original owner has some explaining to do on why those Weistec files were modified, when, and by whom. I assume he didn't tell the new owner. Issue resolved.
02-11-2015, 02:50 PM
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02-11-2015, 02:51 PM
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these threads never end well, and notice its always someone with a low post count who recently joined
02-11-2015, 02:57 PM
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Billet. The word is billet. Research would've told you this.
Research would've also told you that buying heavily modded cars on the second hand market generally leads to issues down the road.
And then Weistec chimes in letting us all know that the files didn't match to what Weistec originally put on the car so here comes my guess.
OP buys car. On the first tranny fail the wrong fluid gets put in. Puts it on EC's dyno (hmm, do they tune cars? for more power? hmmm). New tune runs lean, with more power, and welp piston a tranny fail. But obviously it is Weistecs fault who only touched the car while it was working just fine.
Again, that is my guess of how things probably went down.
Out of curiosity, however... OP -- It appears as though you have the means to buy a fresh c63 and then send it off to Weistec and have you build one from the bottom up. Why go to the used market? Wouldn't a new c63 look better next to that Ferrari?
These company bashing threads are getting ridiculous.
*****Sitting and waiting for Jim*****
(Jim, bets this is Andy? Although, I certainly couldn't hang with what you'd put on the table
)
Research would've also told you that buying heavily modded cars on the second hand market generally leads to issues down the road.
And then Weistec chimes in letting us all know that the files didn't match to what Weistec originally put on the car so here comes my guess.
OP buys car. On the first tranny fail the wrong fluid gets put in. Puts it on EC's dyno (hmm, do they tune cars? for more power? hmmm). New tune runs lean, with more power, and welp piston a tranny fail. But obviously it is Weistecs fault who only touched the car while it was working just fine.
Again, that is my guess of how things probably went down.
Out of curiosity, however... OP -- It appears as though you have the means to buy a fresh c63 and then send it off to Weistec and have you build one from the bottom up. Why go to the used market? Wouldn't a new c63 look better next to that Ferrari?
These company bashing threads are getting ridiculous.
*****Sitting and waiting for Jim*****
(Jim, bets this is Andy? Although, I certainly couldn't hang with what you'd put on the table
)
This isn't in defense of Weistec or OP, just stating that its Bullet (according to Weistec) not Billet.
02-11-2015, 03:01 PM
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02-11-2015, 03:06 PM
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And it's always the squeaky wheel (that gets the oil) and also chimes in on the forums, or on web sites. That's my major issue when interpreting reviews, I always assume that there is a disproportionate of unhappy people represented, and many of the happy folks don't end up writing a thing. I've seen plenty of positive reviews of Weistec here. I just don't think that is you're unhappy with any service that it makes sense to post about an issue with a vendor. Deal with them, and if that doesn't work call an attorney or whatever. Or ask if others have had issues on the forums. But just slamming any vendor with a post, and a really hard to understand one at that - I'm not sure you're gonna get much from that. But I do hope you're able to get your rig fixed!
02-11-2015, 04:17 PM
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Let's be honest...did they think adding an aftermarket blower was going to make their car reliable (or more reliable)? You pay to play. Everyone that mods should know the risks that *hit WILL break somewhere, one way or another. If you don't know that or expect it, sell whatever you own and buy a bulletproof Toyota Camry.
Even the company has been seeded and established for several YEARS, things do and will happen. It's what happens after the fact that differenciates the excellent companies from the poor ones.
I've owned many different cars make (from mod'd factory turbos to aftermarket blowers to aftermarket turbos etc.) and no matter how reputable or reliable a performance company says the car is or will be, Murphy's Law. Things will break and need to be repaired - yes, including tranny and motors.
If you want something as fast as a blown C63, buy a brand new GT500 or ZR1 or the list of other cars that are faster from the factory off the showroom floor.
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Even the company has been seeded and established for several YEARS, things do and will happen. It's what happens after the fact that differenciates the excellent companies from the poor ones.
I've owned many different cars make (from mod'd factory turbos to aftermarket blowers to aftermarket turbos etc.) and no matter how reputable or reliable a performance company says the car is or will be, Murphy's Law. Things will break and need to be repaired - yes, including tranny and motors.
If you want something as fast as a blown C63, buy a brand new GT500 or ZR1 or the list of other cars that are faster from the factory off the showroom floor.
my .02
02-11-2015, 04:37 PM
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Let's be honest...did they think adding an aftermarket blower was going to make their car reliable (or more reliable)? You pay to play. Everyone that mods should know the risks that *hit WILL break somewhere, one way or another. If you don't know that or expect it, sell whatever you own and buy a bulletproof Toyota Camry.
Even the company has been seeded and established for several YEARS, things do and will happen. It's what happens after the fact that differenciates the excellent companies from the poor ones.
I've owned many different cars make (from mod'd factory turbos to aftermarket blowers to aftermarket turbos etc.) and no matter how reputable or reliable a performance company says the car is or will be, Murphy's Law. Things will break and need to be repaired - yes, including tranny and motors.
If you want something as fast as a blown C63, buy a brand new GT500 or ZR1 or the list of other cars that are faster from the factory off the showroom floor.
my .02
Even the company has been seeded and established for several YEARS, things do and will happen. It's what happens after the fact that differenciates the excellent companies from the poor ones.
I've owned many different cars make (from mod'd factory turbos to aftermarket blowers to aftermarket turbos etc.) and no matter how reputable or reliable a performance company says the car is or will be, Murphy's Law. Things will break and need to be repaired - yes, including tranny and motors.
If you want something as fast as a blown C63, buy a brand new GT500 or ZR1 or the list of other cars that are faster from the factory off the showroom floor.
my .02
02-11-2015, 05:02 PM
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I don't understand the ones complaining about posts like this. Sure it's Weistec and their rep is great, but so was EUROCHARGED and my post closed that caniveing shop in sterling Va down when all the mice came out of the closet. It's educational, for the most part. How many people did we all save from Eurocharged? How many people got screwed over and over again and never said a thing or did a thing about it? My post, although had pictures and text messages as proof helped ALOT of people from going there, and not just locals, people that were ready to drive hundreds of miles just to go to THAT shop. So, you have a bad experience that couldn't be worked out? Please post, don't hide like the dozens of people that stayed quiet about Eurocharged.
Anyways, GOODLUCK with your issue, from what I know about weistec, they help fix problems that ARNT even theirs to fix. If it was your fault, bite your lip and deal with your mistake.
Edit: who the hell buys a used stage 3 supercharged car? Don't you already assume the snot has been beaten out of it and then sold? A lot of money that saved you.
Anyways, GOODLUCK with your issue, from what I know about weistec, they help fix problems that ARNT even theirs to fix. If it was your fault, bite your lip and deal with your mistake.
Edit: who the hell buys a used stage 3 supercharged car? Don't you already assume the snot has been beaten out of it and then sold? A lot of money that saved you.
02-11-2015, 05:03 PM
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I was thinking billet materials make it bullet proof.
02-11-2015, 05:21 PM
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Oh totally. Even a "reliable" setup runs the risk of failure. Failure could be highly likely or very rare. It just depends. But with a factory car like the ones you or I mentioned, there is a warranty to back you up. That being said, I'd love a Weistec Blower and Trans. But I'd also like to keep my house and my wife...lol
02-11-2015, 05:36 PM
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02-11-2015, 05:57 PM
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Guys - Eurocharged has the car now and it hasn't left our facility since mid 2014. We have NEVER tuned the car previously.
We have no idea who might have tuned it before.
We have no idea who might have tuned it before.
02-11-2015, 06:04 PM
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I don't understand the ones complaining about posts like this. Sure it's Weistec and their rep is great, but so was EUROCHARGED and my post closed that caniveing shop in sterling Va down when all the mice came out of the closet. It's educational, for the most part. How many people did we all save from Eurocharged?
You have the facts all wrong. The shop didn't get "shut down". The Eurocharged name has been removed due to the issues, but the shop is still open and probably up to the same business practices.
http://www.iapracing.com/
You did not save ANYONE from Eurocharged, you saved them from Paul Sullivan. Eurocharged did the right thing and pulled the franchise.
This is all I will say since there is a pending lawsuit.
02-11-2015, 06:40 PM
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^Nobody here is saying EC or Weistec sucks. There are just plenty of holes in the story and questions that surround the OP. All of us who have been around here long enough that these threads pop up but the reputations of EC and Weistec remain strong here.
02-11-2015, 06:47 PM
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You have the facts all wrong. The shop didn't get "shut down". The Eurocharged name has been removed due to the issues, but the shop is still open and probably up to the same business practices.
http://www.iapracing.com/
You did not save ANYONE from Eurocharged, you saved them from Paul Sullivan. Eurocharged did the right thing and pulled the franchise.
This is all I will say since there is a pending lawsuit.
http://www.iapracing.com/
You did not save ANYONE from Eurocharged, you saved them from Paul Sullivan. Eurocharged did the right thing and pulled the franchise.
This is all I will say since there is a pending lawsuit.
EC definitely did the right thing by pulling the franchise rights!
02-11-2015, 07:08 PM
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Based on all the communications that MaroonC63 have posted, EC has been nothing but accommodating in addressing his issues. The issue was and still is with Paul Sullivan and IAPracing. IAPracing definitely does not have any more dealings with EC, they are selling tunes from another tuner right now. I'm sure EC will perform their due diligence prior to handing out franchise rights to any shops in the future.
EC definitely did the right thing by pulling the franchise rights!
EC definitely did the right thing by pulling the franchise rights!
Oh, and YOURE dead on about him continuing the same practices, i still hear recent horror stories. Dear lord.
