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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 01:41 AM
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Cold start blues...

In the last two days...I've noticed cold starts were mute compared to normal cold start ups. Temp has been about 45 and engine oil temp at 50. On start up I am getting this constant ticking sound....from drivers side.

Normal idle is 1300-1400 for a few seconds then goes down to 700. Now it's idling at 1000 and a bit lumpy. Plus the clicking sound.

I am thinking either I have a busted relay (causing the clicks) or secondary air pump failure? Or both? Heavy gas smell from exhaust. No cel at all.

Thoughts? Also is the relay the green one in the fuse box?
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Honestly, cold starts in CA suck in general. If you want an amazing cold start, like viagra for your 6.3, go to a Midwest or East coast state....where the cold start was originally born...
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Does that ticking sound goes away? Is it the same flapping sound you are talking about in your misfire thread?
I only know 2 types of ticking on our engine: the lifters and knocking
The latter being more serious than the other.
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Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
Honestly, cold starts in CA suck in general. If you want an amazing cold start, like viagra for your 6.3, go to a Midwest or East coast state....where the cold start was originally born...
Lol....I'll keep that in mind....looks like I'll just blame my state
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Does that ticking sound goes away? Is it the same flapping sound you are talking about in your misfire thread?
I only know 2 types of ticking on our engine: the lifters and knocking
The latter being more serious than the other.
Yes it goes away after cold start cycle....it does idle up but not as high as it normally dido once I last owned it. No definitely not lifters...mine were replaced 6 months ago through dealer and all good now.

It's weird.

Misfire during warm start up have all but disappeared since I started using Chevron gas....now this....telling you these little things drive me nuts...
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Just trying to make you chuckle, sorry for not being much help.

On the other hand, you are aware that several people have had problems with the lifters and cams, right? I would consider this as well as a leak in the manifold?

Heavy gas smell from exhaust or engine bay?
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Just trying to make you chuckle, sorry for not being much help.

On the other hand, you are aware that several people have had problems with the lifters and cams, right? I would consider this as well as a leak in the manifold?

Heavy gas smell from exhaust or engine bay?
Yes I'm aware of the lifters and cams....mine were worked on about 6 months ago so it isn't that....well hopefully not....leak in manifold would've tripped a lean cel which I agave not seen for over a year since last gasket replacement. Exhaust possible but sound is a distinct ticking sound....sounds like a relay going on and off constantly....I've notified my tech at dealer who has done all the work...he's stumped...the sound disappears when warm up start up (California style) is completed and car idles normally right after.
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Update....brought the car to dealer....checked secondary air pump, vacuum, relay etc....everything working fine.....

Weird..hopefully no long term issues...will test for next few weeks...at least no more misfires with gas.
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my car actually sounded pretty pissed of this morning when i started it up.


i beat her up pretty good last night, so maybe that was why.
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Update....brought the car to dealer....checked secondary air pump, vacuum, relay etc....everything working fine.....

Weird..hopefully no long term issues...will test for next few weeks...at least no more misfires with gas.
Keep us posted....
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