C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015

Differential Cooling

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-26-2015, 06:48 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Differential Cooling

My C63 507 did not have any differential cooling at all. Not even a few cooling ribs. Strange, because according to the electronic parts catalogue (EPC), it is supposed to have a finned heat sink attached, that Mercedes calls a 'Rectifier'. I suspect the C63 has that rectifier outside the US, but here we do not seem to have it.
When driving the car hard, e.g. during a track day, the differential oil gets hot and we do not even have a temperature indicator/alarm to know when that happens. I got suspicious when, after a track day, I found some diff oil had been expelled through the vent on the top side of the diff, and that bit of oil smelled burnt.

It took me quite a while to sort though various options of alternative diff covers to find the right one that can actually accommodate the rectifier, but I have finally figured it out, and with the help of Tracy at oediscountparts.com, got what it takes to add passive cooling to my car's diff.
According to William Vetter from MBUSA (he is the AMG Black Series rep in the Private Lounge), that set up should be fine for shortish runs of up to 30 minutes or so. Endurance racing would require the full differential cooling kit from the Black Series with oil pump and radiator.

Here is how it works, if anybody wants to do the same thing (the quoted oil is for the LSD):
1. Buy the rectifier (part number A171 351 01 08, ca 85$; part 200 in the attached drawing) and the 2 bolts needed to attach it (part N000000 001536)
2. Buy Differential cover (A204 351 06 08, ca 205$, part 30 in the drawing)
3. Get 3x500 ml of Castrol 75W 140 limited slip differential oil
4. Swap out the stock diff cover against the new one and attach the finned rectifier. In order to do that the differential needs to be lowered from the car and the exhaust may have to be removed partially to get at it. About 3 hrs of work.

Here some illustrations:

stock diff:



Exploded view from EPC



New cover with rectifier



installed



Last edited by Wobble64; 06-26-2015 at 09:02 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Patel (07-21-2020)
Old 06-26-2015, 07:09 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Can someone tell me how to directly embed pictures in a post? I thought if I did it this way that would work, but alas, no. Hopefully you can at least see them when clicking.
Old 06-26-2015, 07:09 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,045
Received 2,810 Likes on 1,664 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Nice work, that's pretty sweet. Have you tracked it since? And did you install any kind of temp monitoring?

Seems pretty cheap and easy for the piece of mind. Will add this to my list...
Old 06-26-2015, 07:23 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Not yet, just got the diff cooler installed yesterday, next time to track it will be July11 at NCM.

I did not bother with a temperature indicator. I can always check/change the oil after a couple track days and see whether it gets dark.
Old 06-26-2015, 08:14 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,221
Received 1,576 Likes on 929 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Originally Posted by Wobble64
Can someone tell me how to directly embed pictures in a post? I thought if I did it this way that would work, but alas, no. Hopefully you can at least see them when clicking.
Wrap the dropbox image link in img tags.

Last edited by Jasonoff; 06-26-2015 at 09:22 PM.
Old 06-26-2015, 08:31 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Jasonoff, thanks for trying - but I need a few more words on how to do that. 'Wrap the dropbox link in img tags' does not mean anything to me. How?
Old 06-26-2015, 08:53 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,045
Received 2,810 Likes on 1,664 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
[IMG] dropbox links [/IMG]
Old 06-26-2015, 09:00 PM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
found another way - but thanks, will try the img tags next time!

Last edited by Wobble64; 06-26-2015 at 09:12 PM.
Old 06-26-2015, 09:23 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,221
Received 1,576 Likes on 929 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Originally Posted by Wobble64
Jasonoff, thanks for trying - but I need a few more words on how to do that. 'Wrap the dropbox link in img tags' does not mean anything to me. How?
Lol my bad. Yeah, what BLKROKT said
Old 06-28-2015, 05:01 PM
  #10  
Super Member
 
MBNRG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 723
Received 228 Likes on 152 Posts
.
Question

Originally Posted by Wobble64
It took me quite a while to sort though various options of alternative diff covers to find the right one that can actually accommodate the rectifier, but I have finally figured it out, and with the help of Tracy at oediscountparts.com, got what it takes to add passive cooling to my car's diff.
My god, Bernhard, from the OG pioneer of the Cooling Package, to the Racing Brake BS Upgrade, to now this - you, Sir, are the MF MAN!

Thank you for all that you do for those who like to go fast around the track.

Will this Differential Cover fit on the regular Non-LSD C63? Am swapping out my old diff for a Wavetrac LSD and would like to get this passive cooling installed at same time, if possible.
Old 06-28-2015, 05:23 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Glad if I can help - many of those things are really easy - if only someone told us.


According to the electronic parts catalogue, there are only 3 differential covers for all C63s, including BS. One is the one for the BS track package with temperature switch and oil coupling. The other 2 I have both installed on my diff and I know they are interchangeable. So I think it is a pretty safe bet, that the cover and heatsink fit any of the C63 differential housings. I also had the track package cover in my hands, but that one I did not install. That may be a phase 2, if required. And whether the differential housing contains the stock diff or an after market LSD will not make a difference.

The reason why I called out the LSD as a consideration, is because I think the required oil will be different. If you put in a Wavetrac or a Quaife, just use the oil they recommend.

Last edited by Wobble64; 06-28-2015 at 05:28 PM.
Old 06-28-2015, 07:08 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,221
Received 1,576 Likes on 929 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Originally Posted by MBNRG
Will this Differential Cover fit on the regular Non-LSD C63?
The ring gear is what the cover needs to clear. Same one used no matter what Open OEM or LSD you slap in there.
Old 12-28-2015, 05:45 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Quick Update: The finned heatsink seems to do fine for track days with typical 20-25 minute runs. I had no more episodes of burped diff oil or burnt smell after installing this upgrade.

So, as long as we do not do endurance races, the C63 diff should be thermally healthy enough also for tracking, with the 'rectifier'.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:03 PM
  #14  
Super Member
 
thesaintusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 545
Received 73 Likes on 58 Posts
2019 911 GTS / 2016 X3 / 2015 E63s / 1993 RX-7
So are there cars that come with the 'Rectifier' installed from the factory in the USA?

Will have to crawl under my car when I swap out the winter tires and take a look and see what the diff cover looks like on my 507.

Great posts btw.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:09 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
m a x i m u s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,165
Received 57 Likes on 53 Posts
C63 AMG P30 *EuroCharged*| Porsche Cayenne | Buell XB9SX
Mine doesn't have the rectifier either (2009 P30).
Old 12-28-2015, 11:48 PM
  #16  
Super Member
 
dlefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 677
Received 184 Likes on 141 Posts
/////PRO
Great thread/posts Wobble, thank you. With all your "pioneering" efforts on searching out these improvements, have you had time to look into the new Weistec trans pan that is supposed to help cooling and hold more fluids? Don't mean to drag this off track, but figured we were on the driveline cooling theme.
Old 12-29-2015, 08:10 AM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,045
Received 2,810 Likes on 1,664 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by thesaintusa
So are there cars that come with the 'Rectifier' installed from the factory in the USA?
Rectifiers were installed on some EUR and AUS cars, but not US cars.


Originally Posted by dlefty
have you had time to look into the new Weistec trans pan that is supposed to help cooling and hold more fluids?
I've got the Weistec trans pan and the valve body/TCU upgrade going in over the winter. Will report back next season.
Old 12-29-2015, 09:33 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Asher4799's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 337
Received 25 Likes on 23 Posts
2009 C63/ 2015 C63 507 coupe
Originally Posted by Wobble64
Quick Update: The finned heatsink seems to do fine for track days with typical 20-25 minute runs. I had no more episodes of burped diff oil or burnt smell after installing this upgrade.

So, as long as we do not do endurance races, the C63 diff should be thermally healthy enough also for tracking, with the 'rectifier'.
Great info thanks!!
Old 12-29-2015, 10:00 AM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
For grins: The finned heatsink, the 'rectifier'; is actually a part from the old SLK55. Mercedes just reused an existing part. I already had one on my SLK since 2008 and did not know it.....

Jim, next season will be upon us in no time - you got to get moving with your upgrades. My Clubsport coilovers are going in TODAY!
Old 12-29-2015, 10:12 AM
  #20  
Super Member
 
gmaschine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Chicago
Posts: 652
Received 83 Likes on 47 Posts
W463
Thanks for the info.

Keep me updated on the Clubsport/K-Mac install and let me know if you are willing to part with those plates.
Old 12-29-2015, 10:20 AM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
Wobble64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati Area
Posts: 1,001
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts
C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
one set of camber plates/top mounts will definitely be available - either the K-Macs or the KW topmounts. Both are nice....

I should know by tomorrow.
Old 12-29-2015, 10:37 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
oggie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
2011 E550 4Matic & 2010 Audi Q5 & 2015 C63 507
Great write-up.
Old 12-29-2015, 12:41 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
m a x i m u s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,165
Received 57 Likes on 53 Posts
C63 AMG P30 *EuroCharged*| Porsche Cayenne | Buell XB9SX
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
Rectifiers were installed on some EUR and AUS cars, but not US cars.I've got the Weistec trans pan and the valve body/TCU upgrade going in over the winter. Will report back next season.
Thanks, I figured. I loved the way they looked on other AMG's, particularly the E55.
Old 12-29-2015, 07:22 PM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
abcut973's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Denham Springs,LA
Posts: 3,704
Received 19 Likes on 18 Posts
'12 C63 Black Series, '12 ML350 BlueTech
Originally Posted by Wobble64
For grins: The finned heatsink, the 'rectifier'; is actually a part from the old SLK55.......
Correct! I did this on my old 09 sedan. I still have a spare heatsink sitting in my garage.
Old 12-30-2015, 09:18 AM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
AMG893's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,744
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
2010 C63 Estate
All C63 in Aus had this on the car already. Weird how things change from country to country.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: Differential Cooling



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:40 AM.