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Can you please explain some of the choices - there are simple solutions like the Clubsport, as well as DDC versions. The C63 has adaptive dampers ex works. Do the KW solutions leverage that factory setup or are stand alone?
Brad remind me your postal code in Aus again... I'll get you a transit rate first thing on Monday.
Originally Posted by Wobble64
Can you please explain some of the choices - there are simple solutions like the Clubsport, as well as DDC versions. The C63 has adaptive dampers ex works. Do the KW solutions leverage that factory setup or are stand alone?
The W204 C63 has no adaptive or dynamic dampening. The suspension set up for these cars is purely static.
Switching to a KW coilover system is in my opinion one of if no the best modifications next to a limited slip diff in these cars.
I think we can all attest to how uncomfortable the ride can get with a performance packaged car/507 and the struts alone in the KW are worth the upgrade for comfort alone.
V3 are 3 way adjustable. You can obviously adjust the ride height, beyond that you have individual adjustable settings for damping in compression and rebound. These dials are located at the top and the bottom of the strut and manual adjustment is required which can be cumbersome if you are constantly switching from a track to street set up.
KW also offers a DDC (Dynamic Damping Control) which allows users to adjust the damping of the strut with a module and button or their really trick app inside the vehicle without having to physically touch the strut as well as programing 3 preset modes for the car:
The app available is extremely cool and very functional for on the fly and deeper custom adjustments to set up the DDC functions:
The clubsport is an available coilover solution for those who are looking for a very track oriented set up. KW specific top mount camber plates, stiffer spring rates and valving. These have the same adjustable aspects of the V3 but are more suited for track use and much harsher on the street.
We can tailer a High Lift System (HLS) to any coilover if you are worried about lowering the car and hitting the nose.
Let me know if you guys have any other questions. I've installed countless KW systems for the W204 C63 and would be glad to help!
Last edited by Girard@ACGautomotive; 10-10-2015 at 10:57 AM.
LOL, I just assumed the C63 had adaptive dampers. I have seen cables going to the shock absorber. Upon taking a closer look all they were were the cables to the brake wear sensor and ABS sensor. Simple setup then - I actually prefer that. The phone control option works for iPhone only.
Hmm, food for thought. I like the idea of height adjustability.
Wanted to ask the same question re differences between V3 and Clubsport. Valve settings and camber plates?
I have no personal experience with the C63 Versions, but, back on the GTIs, yes, it's essentially the Valving and Camber Plates. However, Camber Plates on the CS are an optional item, IIRC.
ClubSports are also much "Beefier", and will hold up to much more abuse.
Brad remind me your postal code in Aus again... I'll get you a transit rate first thing on Monday.
The W204 C63 has no adaptive or dynamic dampening. The suspension set up for these cars is purely static.
Switching to a KW coilover system is in my opinion one of if no the best modifications next to a limited slip diff in these cars.
I think we can all attest to how uncomfortable the ride can get with a performance packaged car/507 and the struts alone in the KW are worth the upgrade for comfort alone.
V3 are 3 way adjustable. You can obviously adjust the ride height, beyond that you have individual adjustable settings for damping in compression and rebound. These dials are located at the top and the bottom of the strut and manual adjustment is required which can be cumbersome if you are constantly switching from a track to street set up.
KW also offers a DDC (Dynamic Damping Control) which allows users to adjust the damping of the strut with a module and button or their really trick app inside the vehicle without having to physically touch the strut as well as programing 3 preset modes for the car:
The app available is extremely cool and very functional for on the fly and deeper custom adjustments to set up the DDC functions:
The clubsport is an available coilover solution for those who are looking for a very track oriented set up. KW specific top mount camber plates, stiffer spring rates and valving. These have the same adjustable aspects of the V3 but are more suited for track use and much harsher on the street.
We can tailer a High Lift System (HLS) to any coilover if you are worried about lowering the car and hitting the nose.
Let me know if you guys have any other questions. I've installed countless KW systems for the W204 C63 and would be glad to help!
I have no personal experience with the C63 Versions, but, back on the GTIs, yes, it's essentially the Valving and Camber Plates. However, Camber Plates on the CS are an optional item, IIRC.
ClubSports are also much "Beefier", and will hold up to much more abuse.
Bingo. Topmount camber plates, strut valving and stiffer spring rates.
They are very track oriented that can be used on the street. The V3 are going to be much more comfortable all around.
Hi Tal, what is the cost of the Clubsport set shipped to 45040 (Ohio)?
And how does rear height adjustment work? Is that also infinitely adjustable or in increments? Is the adjustable spring seat on the top or bottom - and is it easy to get to to make adjustments, or is it essentially an uninstall/reinstall kind of job?
Hi Tal, what is the cost of the Clubsport set shipped to 45040 (Ohio)?
And how does rear height adjustment work? Is that also infinitely adjustable or in increments? Is the adjustable spring seat on the top or bottom - and is it easy to get to to make adjustments, or is it essentially an uninstall/reinstall kind of job?
Thanks!
Ground shipping will be about $50 to that zip so $3250.
You'll have to basically swing out the lower control arm from the diff side and remove the coil and perch to adjust ride height. Not too cumbersome if you have a lift but can definitely be done on jack stands.
The adjustment perch sits in between the chassis and the spring so it's on the top side.
Thanks!
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
Great, thanks Tal.
Now tell me more about those rear fenders
I wish I could.... It hasn't been the most enjoyable process getting them so far.
Originally Posted by sheeyo
Freight cost for V3s to 92804?
If local, is pick up an option?
Thanks.
About $40 from us here in SD. You could definitely pick them up if you want, or we could install and align here at our shop
Just because vivid keeps creating not so "special" kw suspension sales threads with no prices. I'm going to bump the great guys at ACG for being transparent with their special mbworld prices!
Just because vivid keeps creating not so "special" kw suspension sales threads with no prices. I'm going to bump the great guys at ACG for being transparent with their special mbworld prices!
Hey Tal, is this a manufacturer promotion with a deadline or will you be able to hold these prices into the winter? I am considering a suspension upgrade as winter project.
10-09-2015, 02:46 PM
