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Old 01-14-2016, 06:33 PM
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if the "2 AMG engines a day by one mech" is true....
imagine forking out 40% more for an engine built by one man even before he gets to his lucnch break. takes away the exclusivity.

EDIT: im more interested as to which category in this forum would it fall under...would it be on "Mercedes-Benz AMG Vehicles"?

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Originally Posted by beejAMG
if the "2 AMG engines a day by one mech" is true....
imagine forking out 40% more for an engine built by one man even before he gets to his lucnch break. takes away the exclusivity.

EDIT: im more interested as to which category in this forum would it fall under...would it be on "Mercedes-Benz AMG Vehicles"?
Sigh this argument is getting so old.
Just close this thread already and welcome the baby c43 into the Amg family.
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Originally Posted by Zand3rs
IF AMG guys build 2 engines per day it would have taken them roughly 50 engine builders to get to that goal. Just saying.
I think we might start seeing more AMG cars with production engines soon :/

http://wardsauto.com/industry/merced...-annually-2017
Each engine builder build's 2-3 engines a day. I think there are 45 Engine builders at Affalterbach.
Just a rough estimate info that I remember from Private Lounge.
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Originally Posted by ab0bab0i
Each engine builder build's 2-3 engines a day. I think there are 45 Engine builders at Affalterbach.
Just a rough estimate info that I remember from Private Lounge.
Ok.

So do they work every day 365 days a week? plus overtime?
they aim for 70 000 AMG cars 2017.

It might be a reason why one man one engine thingie is starting to get really hard to keep up with.
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Originally Posted by ab0bab0i
Each engine builder build's 2-3 engines a day. I think there are 45 Engine builders at Affalterbach.
Just a rough estimate info that I remember from Private Lounge.
thats even worst then...ealier 1 tech should finish just 1 engine before he takes his lunch break then another after to finish 2 a day. now he has to finish 1 before he even has his tea break?

makes me even more skeptical with the one man one engine thing. I remember seeing Clarkson on one of the episodes of top gear when he test drove the then new C63 w204, he said it sarcastically when he mentioned that AMG claims to have the engine handbuilt by one man per engine. loooooong pause after that then he rolled his eyes. not that it matters to me as I love my AMG.

anyway, whats the topic on this thread again?

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Technically they don't build the engine, they just put the Pistons and other parts together.
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You guys are being completely overly harsh and it's obvious you have never actually driven one.

The twin turbo V6 is most definitely an AMG motor and it blows away the older SC V6s which are far inferior. The GLE450 is as good if not better than the older ML63s and the performance them is astonishing for what many consider an AMG-lite.

It's a smart brilliant move and it reduces confusion. Now people have two AMG models to choose from in any lineup and I love how they brought back the 43 moniker, very cool.
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You guys are being completely overly harsh and it's obvious you have never actually driven one.

The twin turbo V6 is most definitely an AMG motor and it blows away the older SC V6s which are far inferior. The GLE450 is as good if not better than the older ML63s and the performance them is astonishing for what many consider an AMG-lite.

It's a smart brilliant move and it reduces confusion. Now people have two AMG models to choose from in any lineup and I love how they brought back the 43 moniker, very cool.
You're missing why people are angry, no one is saying the performance is sub par or that it isn't a properly good engine and package... It is
But it isn't an amg by what most enthusiasts and amg themselves associate an amg with ... Starting with the engine which built by Mercedes not amg which goes against one man one engine philosophy
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The twin turbo V6 is most definitely an AMG motor
AMG doesn't make the TT V6.........
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It's entirely possible that amg will come out with their revised statement on their company goals and so called mission statement for 2017+

Meaning, one man one engine could be over in 2017+

There have been many many changes in the Benz amg Corp lately and it just seems like they haven't dialed in yet their final new position, but they are coming close

Member cliffjumper said it perfectly, they just need to make ALL Benz models official Amg and be done with it

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Originally Posted by ML63 AMG
You guys are being completely overly harsh and it's obvious you have never actually driven one.

The twin turbo V6 is most definitely an AMG motor and it blows away the older SC V6s which are far inferior. The GLE450 is as good if not better than the older ML63s and the performance them is astonishing for what many consider an AMG-lite.

It's a smart brilliant move and it reduces confusion. Now people have two AMG models to choose from in any lineup and I love how they brought back the 43 moniker, very cool.
It may be smart and all that, but you're just totally wrong. It is NOT an AMG engine. If it's not actually built in Affalterbach, then it is not an AMG, it is a Mercedes.
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It may be smart and all that, but you're just totally wrong. It is NOT an AMG engine. If it's not actually built in Affalterbach, then it is not an AMG, it is a Mercedes.
While yes the new M276 turbo v6 is not a true AMG motor it is tuned in Affalterbach. Additionally the trams suspension and brakes are also "massaged" by AMG.

To say that a motor not built in Affalterbach though is not correct. Otherwise you will need to tell anyone with an M133 that they don't have an AMG motor.

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Originally Posted by MBtech1098
While yes the new M276 turbo v6 is not a true AMG motor it is tuned in Affalterbach. Additionally the trams suspension and brakes are also "massaged" by AMG.

To say that a motor not built in Affalterbach though is not correct. Otherwise you will need to tell anyone with an M133 that they don't have an AMG motor.

https://www.mdc-power.com/presse/pre...i+mdc+power_n7
M133 isn't built on alfalterbach but it is still assembled by hand... The 276 is tuned by amg?
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M133 isn't built on alfalterbach but it is still assembled by hand... The 276 is tuned by amg?
Not all M276, just the "AMG" version.
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Case in point. It's going to sh¡t...

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Th new twin turbo V6 makes more than the old 5.5L NA m113 V8 did and those were technically mildly tuned benze motors that were not exclusively AMG motors.

AMG is defined by its level of performance... Not necessarily where it originated from... It always has been this way.
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Originally Posted by ML63 AMG
Th new twin turbo V6 makes more than the old 5.5L NA m113 V8 did and those were technically mildly tuned benze motors that were not exclusively AMG motors.

AMG is defined by its level of performance... Not necessarily where it originated from... It always has been this way.
not sure about that. its like saying a tuned/modded V6 by a backyard mech or an indy that came out faster than a V8 NA can be called an AMG coz it performs better.

AMG was independent from Mercedes before it was bought out (again). Now that Mercedes owns the name, they can slap the badge on any production car they prefer. and theres NOT a thing any of you can do about it.

im not pro or against this move but i dont really care. i have an AMG and I know what my car is capable of. i couldnt care less if the next driver on the street looks at my car and think,"is that a real AMG or not?" coz of this decision by Mercedes. I didnt buy my car to please them.
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Originally Posted by ML63 AMG
Th new twin turbo V6 makes more than the old 5.5L NA m113 V8 did and those were technically mildly tuned benze motors that were not exclusively AMG motors.
You are comparing an engine from 1998 to an engine built in 2015? That doesn't help your argument at all.

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AMG is defined by its level of performance... Not necessarily where it originated from... It always has been this way.

Your statement is pretty incorrect.

http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...mg/engine.html

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