New tires on the 63, pleased so far
#76
Nexans are SOUTH Korean. I take great offense to that, they are separate. I demand an apology too.
...... (jk)
Some people need to lighten up where there was clearly no offense meant
Tell China that Taiwan isn't China and see what kind of reaction you get. Jeez people...
...... (jk)
Some people need to lighten up where there was clearly no offense meant
Tell China that Taiwan isn't China and see what kind of reaction you get. Jeez people...
Joking aside though, definitely no harm was meant when discussing the countries of origin. No different than folks referring to "the states" or "America" when referring to the US of A.
#77
Thanks for clarifying that. No countries were really hurt during this message.
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2009 C63 P30, 2008 Grand Cherokee SRT8(RIP)
They are smooth
They hook very well
They turn in very well
I have 2200mi on them and have enjoyed every one(and I have had a LOT of rain locally)
At this point I would be around 20% through a set of rears but thank god for redoing the rear setup so now I'm getting MUCH better tire wear... I don't garage my vehicles I drive them, all the time....even when premium was $4.40 gal and I had my apparently uncouth SRT that got 10mpg, I drove that *****....hard....on Dilentes no less. Some of you guys must have been born with silver spoons in your mouths(which I'm SURE tore your Mama out of the frame), but I work too damn hard for my money to be frivolous with it....these are good tires, if they weren't I wouldn't let my son so much as sit in it...nor would I sell them for anyone else to do the same
#81
so far ive had the michelin pss for a few days and they are head and shoulders above the oem ontis. the ride is smoother, quieter, they offer so much more traction on take offs, and im not talking brutal launches, just taking off from a stop, it feels more composed on my usual daily commute. i put 400km a week on my daily drive, and the pss are a superior tyre.
#82
I was looking at the specs of the NS-20, 360 treadwear rating for our sizes. Can't really find the compound mixture but so far, they seem like a nice daily driver tire from many of the reviews but not many reviews from high powered cars.
#83
Anyone else notice the speed rating of the NS-20 nobles? It's H (130 mph) so that might be a reason for the pricing due to most tires in this segment are rated at higher speed ratings.
I understand most will never go above 130 but I wonder if that will make a difference for some. As a DD I think it's would be a good compromise.
I understand most will never go above 130 but I wonder if that will make a difference for some. As a DD I think it's would be a good compromise.
#84
Nexans are SOUTH Korean. I take great offense to that, they are separate. I demand an apology too.
...... (jk)
Some people need to lighten up where there was clearly no offense meant
Tell China that Taiwan isn't China and see what kind of reaction you get. Jeez people...
...... (jk)
Some people need to lighten up where there was clearly no offense meant
Tell China that Taiwan isn't China and see what kind of reaction you get. Jeez people...
#85
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W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
Okay... I concede that flip-flops are apparently just as unsafe as Nankang tires, so my original comparison stands valid.
And, here's the only testing thread I could find - it mentions the Nankangs near the end: http://forums.consumerreports.org/di...1&nav=messages
Some are made in Taiwan and others in China (not adding insult to injury) and apparently they do suck (relevant excerpt below):
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Krzysztof_Szemiot
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Then try google and some German tests.
Like this one
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/20-zoeller-im-test-245-30-r-20-2899011.html
It is not exactly the tire you are looking at but results for highperformance tire are:
"Nankang NS 2 Ultra Sport • Strengths: low rolling resistance • Weaknesses: dangerously extended braking distances on wet track, understeer wet handling, reduced steering precision, noisy, uncomfortable rolling • Price: 150 € • rating: not recommended. "
Thanks Google translate!
If their best tire is like this imagine what lesser ones can or rather cannot do.
Krzys
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Dexter,
First, welcome back from a fellow New Yorker!
Generally speaking, I would avoid Nankang and similar low-end imports like Infinity. I'm not a big fan of Nexen either but at least the Nexen N8000 is a decent offering, and CR thought highly of the H-speed-rated Nexen CP672.
There are plenty of other manufacturers that make some decent, value-oriented tires including Hankook, Nitto, Kumho, Toyo and Sumitomo. Tell us the year, make & model of your vehicle and we can recommend some excellent all-season performance tires (unless you're like me and want dedicated summer & winter tires).
As for why Consumer Reports hasn't reviewed Nankang yet... they can't review them all.
-Mark
And, here's the only testing thread I could find - it mentions the Nankangs near the end: http://forums.consumerreports.org/di...1&nav=messages
Some are made in Taiwan and others in China (not adding insult to injury) and apparently they do suck (relevant excerpt below):
...
Krzysztof_Szemiot
# 3734.10(10 of 21)
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7/5/13 2:32 PM
Posts:28
7/5/13 2:32 PM
Then try google and some German tests.
Like this one
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/20-zoeller-im-test-245-30-r-20-2899011.html
It is not exactly the tire you are looking at but results for highperformance tire are:
"Nankang NS 2 Ultra Sport • Strengths: low rolling resistance • Weaknesses: dangerously extended braking distances on wet track, understeer wet handling, reduced steering precision, noisy, uncomfortable rolling • Price: 150 € • rating: not recommended. "
Thanks Google translate!
If their best tire is like this imagine what lesser ones can or rather cannot do.
Krzys
Mark_Miller
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Dexter,
First, welcome back from a fellow New Yorker!
Generally speaking, I would avoid Nankang and similar low-end imports like Infinity. I'm not a big fan of Nexen either but at least the Nexen N8000 is a decent offering, and CR thought highly of the H-speed-rated Nexen CP672.
There are plenty of other manufacturers that make some decent, value-oriented tires including Hankook, Nitto, Kumho, Toyo and Sumitomo. Tell us the year, make & model of your vehicle and we can recommend some excellent all-season performance tires (unless you're like me and want dedicated summer & winter tires).
As for why Consumer Reports hasn't reviewed Nankang yet... they can't review them all.
-Mark
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W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
And a couple of others:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/60...s-warning.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/51...ang-tires.html
Enjoy your cheap tires!
P.S. And two more:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/any...tyres.1597147/
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nankang/NS2.htm - and keep in mind that these are on ~120 hp, 2,800 lb compact cars... not 450+ hp, 4,000 lb monsters.
Yeah, they're an awesome deal.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/60...s-warning.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/51...ang-tires.html
Enjoy your cheap tires!
P.S. And two more:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/any...tyres.1597147/
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nankang/NS2.htm - and keep in mind that these are on ~120 hp, 2,800 lb compact cars... not 450+ hp, 4,000 lb monsters.
Yeah, they're an awesome deal.
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#89
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From: Eufaula, Al/Georgetown, GA
2009 C63 P30, 2008 Grand Cherokee SRT8(RIP)
My bad guys as I must stand corrected on this thread, the tires have shown their true colors and unfortunately....I have died. But I will say postmortem that I'm still very pleased with the tires and confident in their abilities, even though as I said, they have killed me...
I read all the consumer report threads prior to installing and they didn't sway me as it is just one guy with a name brand tire fetish who had never even seen a set in person but felt compelled to condemn them solely based on the fact that they weren't a brand he would spend his money on...in retrospect his comments mirror those here pretty spot on....but to add fuel to the fire I provide the following:
http://nickscarblog.com/tires/nankang-noble-sport-ns-20-review
I read all the consumer report threads prior to installing and they didn't sway me as it is just one guy with a name brand tire fetish who had never even seen a set in person but felt compelled to condemn them solely based on the fact that they weren't a brand he would spend his money on...in retrospect his comments mirror those here pretty spot on....but to add fuel to the fire I provide the following:
http://nickscarblog.com/tires/nankang-noble-sport-ns-20-review
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You know - now you're really starting to be a pest. This is NOT a commercial thread for you to peddle your junk. If you want to promote your crap tires here, please feel free to become a site sponsor and then you can post in the "Vendor Classifieds" section all you want. They don't have the speed rating for a C63, they don't have the load rating for a C63, but yeah, they're freakin' awesome tires. We all got it. You're tickled pink with your tires. Good for you. Why do you keep trying to convince everyone just how freakin' great they are?
And, you managed to find a review of one guy who had them on for a day and was happy with them in the dry... but everyone who has tested them or had them on for a couple of years and noticed they're crap, outright dangerous in the wet and/or falling apart after two years is wrong. In 15+ years of motorsports I alone have probably used and wrecked more tires than you've ever sold or been near, not to mention all the guys that I've been riding with or instructing with various car clubs... but yeah, I am biased and have a tire fetish.
Get a life and move on - or if you've already died, have the decency to stay dead. Zombies pi$$ me off.
And, you managed to find a review of one guy who had them on for a day and was happy with them in the dry... but everyone who has tested them or had them on for a couple of years and noticed they're crap, outright dangerous in the wet and/or falling apart after two years is wrong. In 15+ years of motorsports I alone have probably used and wrecked more tires than you've ever sold or been near, not to mention all the guys that I've been riding with or instructing with various car clubs... but yeah, I am biased and have a tire fetish.
Get a life and move on - or if you've already died, have the decency to stay dead. Zombies pi$$ me off.
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Chill, bud. Like you, I wouldn't touch these tires with a ten foot pole. You've done a great job of helping readers understand that these are not rated for a car like ours and that using them presents some serious compromises. However, there are a lot of other owners who are not as **** as we are about tires, who grandma around and never stress their tires, who are more focused on tire cost than performance (or, dare I say, safety). JPT seems to have a lot of experience with lower-end tires and he seems to have found one that is not as crappy as most cheap tires. He comes across as offering to share that insight to the community, and not as someone who is trying to sell us anything. I've not seen anything that mentions a business name or location - nothing commercial at all. No need to be hating on him just because he's got a different focus.
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You know - now you're really starting to be a pest. This is NOT a commercial thread for you to peddle your junk. If you want to promote your crap tires here, please feel free to become a site sponsor and then you can post in the "Vendor Classifieds" section all you want. They don't have the speed rating for a C63, they don't have the load rating for a C63, but yeah, they're freakin' awesome tires. We all got it. You're tickled pink with your tires. Good for you. Why do you keep trying to convince everyone just how freakin' great they are?
And, you managed to find a review of one guy who had them on for a day and was happy with them in the dry... but everyone who has tested them or had them on for a couple of years and noticed they're crap, outright dangerous in the wet and/or falling apart after two years is wrong. In 15+ years of motorsports I alone have probably used and wrecked more tires than you've ever sold or been near, not to mention all the guys that I've been riding with or instructing with various car clubs... but yeah, I am biased and have a tire fetish.
Get a life and move on - or if you've already died, have the decency to stay dead. Zombies pi$$ me off.
And, you managed to find a review of one guy who had them on for a day and was happy with them in the dry... but everyone who has tested them or had them on for a couple of years and noticed they're crap, outright dangerous in the wet and/or falling apart after two years is wrong. In 15+ years of motorsports I alone have probably used and wrecked more tires than you've ever sold or been near, not to mention all the guys that I've been riding with or instructing with various car clubs... but yeah, I am biased and have a tire fetish.
Get a life and move on - or if you've already died, have the decency to stay dead. Zombies pi$$ me off.